Something that may be way off base, but something I did notice with this bug.
Our servers appeared to be holding players on the gameq query on TF2, but I 
haven't noticed the issue since we changed the TF2 query to qstat on our query 
page. 


> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:42:21 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Holding Players
> 
> Oh god, not these lulz again.
> 
> Phillip Vector wrote:
> > Yeah. It's not like they are honeypot servers afterall.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:17 PM, msleeper<[email protected]> wrote:
> >   
> >> I don't think any of those server tracking sites are reliable,
> >> especially not if you're comparing them to the actual server browser.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 18:06 -0400, Violent Crimes wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Neg. Game-monitor doesn't show them as being in the server. But they do
> >>> show up in teh server listing when you look via steam.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> msleeper wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> Oh is THAT what is causing that? I thought HLSW was being buggy, I know
> >>>> they've been on the update craze. I wonder if these ghost players work
> >>>> towards our server rank.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 04:41 -0400, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Cool, built in fake players.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sneaky sneaky!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:19 AM
> >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Holding Players
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >From 13/08/09 update:
> >>>>>  - Added response caching for some server queries to help reduce the CPU
> >>>>> load from DOS attacks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Violent Crimes <
> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Anyone notice since the update that you will have random players in 
> >>>>>> your
> >>>>>> server but there time never changes. Right now I have 5 players in my
> >>>>>> server "even though the server shows 4/32" none of them are actually in
> >>>>>> the server.
> >>>>>>
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