Right. It's a "bug" that they implemented whole new "validate" functions in the client binary solely for the purpose of not displaying entities that are parented to players.
On 5/3/2010 12:18 PM, Donnie Newlove wrote: > While true I still don't see any reason to block it, so I'm doubtful > they even did it with the intention of blocking custom content. Could > it not be that they simply broke it, meaning it's just a bug? > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:24 PM, mfan<[email protected]> wrote: > >> OH MAN THEY STOPPED MY SHITTY CUSTOM HATS THAT ATTRACTED AN ADDITIONAL >> 4% OF USERS, MAINLY 13 YEAR OLD MIC SPAMMERS. SHIRLY THEY WON'T RECTIFY >> THIS IN ANY WAY. >> >> >> somebody make a petition. >> >> Flubber wrote: >> >>> Then just give the ability to make custom hats, that's just fucking >>> ridiculous to block every creative idea people got. More, Valve clearly used >>> or at least inspired themselfs from existing community hats for almost all >>> the first wave. Why worked for money when others do it for free for you. >>> Valve used to be reprsentative of a quality of service towards community, >>> now it's just EA Bis. >>> >>> 2010/5/2 1nsane<[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Perhaps Valve is getting ready to sell hats themselves, and as such they do >>>> not want people to get their hats free from servers with a hat plugin. >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Joeri van der Velden< >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Why was the functionality removed anyway? >>>>> >>>>> - Clavus >>>>> >>>>> 2010/5/2 Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald<[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Are there any other mods/plugins that are effected by this other than >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 2 >>>>>> listed on the petition." >>>>>> >>>>>> It breaks anything that wants to attach a model to a player. Not just >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> hats >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> or weapons. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a variety of ways this can be used for creativity and this >>>>>> essentially breaks it, purposely. I usually don't ever complain when >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> they >>>> >>>> >>>>>> make changes to the game and break plug-ins, usually those are >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> side-effects >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> of them making other changes, this changed was targeted and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> intentional. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> The petition was just an alternative use of my time, either I was going >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> spend time circumventing the existing restriction (which would probably >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> fixed if they kept this policy), or I could spend the time asking them >>>>>> nicely to reverse this policy and get the community involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, this doesn't prevent server ops from issuing overpowered weapons >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> >>>>>> other things that drastically affect game play. All that happens is the >>>>>> client doesn't render the model. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wasn't going to post this petition to the list (prefer to do so on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> other >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> community sites), but since it's here I figured I'd explain it a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> little. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> In the end, I hope valve reconsiders. >>>>>> >>>>>> - voogru. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alexander >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Baade >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:54 PM >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there any other mods/plugins that are effected by this other than >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> listed on the petition. I personally don't care about these because a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> lot >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> of server admins will use the hat mod and charge players for them. It >>>>>> angers me to no end that I have to download a boat load of custom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> content >>>> >>>> >>>>>> and then I cant use it unless I donate to the server. These servers >>>>>> typically go on my blacklist. I could over look this fact but I'm not >>>>>> going >>>>>> to because there are a lot of servers out there who have stolen custom >>>>>> maps/content from my clan and heavily rely on these plugins. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Justin<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> https://secure.voogru.com/petition/index.php >>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Justin Fortin<[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any word on a fix for this yet? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Msilbys12<[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds like a client problem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from the best phone ever >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Matt Hoffman >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep, crashing on every server I connect to. (As a client >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> obviously) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Justin Fortin >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So you got everything serverwide working, but it seems like >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> anyone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jo >>>>>>>>>>> has updated the client will crash when they try to connect. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Noel<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My Windows servers are both up and running and joinable now. >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates seemed >>>>>>>>>>>> to take a minute or so longer than usual, but no problems with >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> MM/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> SM >>>>>>>>>>>> running. >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> archives, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> archives, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
