No, "Flubber" is just butthurt because he is too stupid to understand that
his servers are populated by idiots.

Now for some potential suggestions: Perhaps the reason for the update is to
make way for more community or update-based content. Maybe the current
systems needed to be upgraded in order to implement whatever the TF2 team
may have in store in the future.

As for whoever mentioned Valve software not being very "QoS" oriented
(Flubber again):

The game is one of the largest successes valve has had, it has been sold for
$5 at times. Hundreds of hours were spent by the team creating FREE content
to ANYONE who owned the game. Gameplay was expended, _FOUR_ gamemodes were
introduced. Community maps were sponsored, interactive update events were
created (war update, etc).

You're an idiot

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Drogen Viech <[email protected]>wrote:

> Is the internet even 30 years old?
>
> 2010/5/3 Scott <[email protected]>:
>  > What games on the pc were you playing 30 years ago?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On May 2, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Flubber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ohhh an asshole, usual iguess. You're so far away from the truth
> >> that's so
> >> funny (can't say i'm suprised anyway seeing where this list is
> >> going). Our
> >> community is 25-30 years old, i don't need anyone from the outside
> >> on our
> >> customs servers 'till it's full from morning to midnight. We got a
> >> hundred
> >> of players in slot reserved, and aroun 200 waiting for one. You see
> >> i don't
> >> give a shit about random players.I've autobanned asshole who spam
> >> and moroon
> >> with hlss. The facts is that we got talented modeler and they made
> >> great
> >> effort making our server a continuitty from the paper magazine it
> >> came from.
> >> So if your small develloped brain could see further that random
> >> players
> >> joining a random server, you may discover what is a true community.
> >> For now
> >> i can just counseil to you to stop playing full crit orange X with
> >> Kevin
> >> from Utah and go PVE les chialeuses.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/5/2 mfan <[email protected]>
> >>
> >>> OH MAN THEY STOPPED MY SHITTY CUSTOM HATS THAT ATTRACTED AN
> >>> ADDITIONAL
> >>> 4% OF USERS, MAINLY 13 YEAR OLD MIC SPAMMERS. SHIRLY THEY WON'T
> >>> RECTIFY
> >>> THIS IN ANY WAY.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> somebody make a petition.
> >>>
> >>> Flubber wrote:
> >>>> Then just give the ability to make custom hats, that's just fucking
> >>>> ridiculous to block every creative idea people got. More, Valve
> >>>> clearly
> >>> used
> >>>> or at least inspired themselfs from existing community hats for
> >>>> almost
> >>> all
> >>>> the first wave. Why worked for money when others do it for free
> >>>> for you.
> >>>> Valve used to be reprsentative of a quality of service towards
> >>>> community,
> >>>> now it's just EA Bis.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/5/2 1nsane <[email protected]>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps Valve is getting ready to sell hats themselves, and as
> >>>>> such they
> >>> do
> >>>>> not want people to get their hats free from servers with a hat
> >>>>> plugin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Joeri van der Velden <
> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Why was the functionality removed anyway?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Clavus
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2010/5/2 Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Are there any other mods/plugins that are effected by this
> >>>>>>> other than
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2
> >>>>>>> listed on the petition."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It breaks anything that wants to attach a model to a player.
> >>>>>>> Not just
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> hats
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> or weapons.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a variety of ways this can be used for creativity and
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> essentially breaks it, purposely. I usually don't ever complain
> >>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> make changes to the game and break plug-ins, usually those are
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> side-effects
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> of them making other changes, this changed was targeted and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> intentional.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> The petition was just an alternative use of my time, either I was
> >>> going
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> spend time circumventing the existing restriction (which would
> >>> probably
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> fixed if they kept this policy), or I could spend the time
> >>>>>>> asking them
> >>>>>>> nicely to reverse this policy and get the community involved.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, this doesn't prevent server ops from issuing overpowered
> >>>>>>> weapons
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> other things that drastically affect game play. All that
> >>>>>>> happens is
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> client doesn't render the model.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I wasn't going to post this petition to the list (prefer to do
> >>>>>>> so on
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> community sites), but since it's here I figured I'd explain it a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> little.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> In the end, I hope valve reconsiders.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - voogru.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>>> Alexander
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Baade
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:54 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are there any other mods/plugins that are effected by this
> >>>>>>> other than
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> listed on the petition.  I personally don't care about these
> >>>>>>> because a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> lot
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> of server admins will use the hat mod and charge players for
> >>>>>>> them.  It
> >>>>>>> angers me to no end that I have to download a boat load of custom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> content
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> and then I cant use it unless I donate to the server.  These
> >>>>>>> servers
> >>>>>>> typically go on my blacklist.  I could over look this fact but
> >>>>>>> I'm not
> >>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>> to because there are a lot of servers out there who have stolen
> >>>>>>> custom
> >>>>>>> maps/content from my clan and heavily rely on these plugins.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Justin <[email protected]
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://secure.voogru.com/petition/index.php
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Justin Fortin <
> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any word on a fix for this yet?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Msilbys12 <
> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a client problem
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from the best phone ever
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Matt Hoffman
> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep, crashing on every server I connect to. (As a client
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> obviously)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Justin Fortin
> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So you got everything serverwide working, but it seems like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> anyone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jo
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has updated the client will crash when they try to connect.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Noel <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My Windows servers are both up and running and joinable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates seemed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to take a minute or so longer than usual, but no problems
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> MM/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> SM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> running.
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