I totally disagree. If they were using it to cheat then it doesn't 
matter in the least whether or not they were expecting to get VACbanned 
or not, nor how the ban came about. That guy even admitted he was speed 
hacking with it. One less idiot plaguing servers.

On 5/12/2010 3:51 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> Both http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=126487 and
> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=935780 are interesting
> reads.
>
> The player was manually VAC banned by one "Al" or "Professor
> Farnsworth" for running SourceMod as a client plugin. VAC is supposed
> to be an automatic system, and not one that can be triggered manually
> by any Valve employee. This defunctionality really needs to be removed
> from the engine, as it's getting absolutely ridiculous.
>
> Kyle.
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:36 AM, ics<i...@ics-base.net>  wrote:
>    
>> With that logic, a sourcemod in players pc isn't a cheat but you can
>> override your own setting r_drawothermodels 2 and you see through walls
>> even if the cheats are off on the server. This is exactly the reason why
>> plugins in clients suck. Changing viewmodel isn't allowed in L4D2 by
>> default, as those cvars are behind sv_cheats as far as i know. This
>> plugin just bypasses it.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 12.5.2010 17:55, HL-SDK Synths kirjoitti:
>>      
>>> Apologies for the double post (I'm not sure how that works on a mailing
>>> list.
>>>
>>> This plugin doesn't change sv_cheats, it is not a cheat and deserves no
>>> special consideration. It will not be deleted either.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:42 AM, AnAkIn .<anakin...@gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Now there is a client side L4D2 plugin to change cheat cvars like fov and
>>>> viewmodel_fov.
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1242368
>>>>
>>>> For some reason it still hasn't been deleted, and it's been posted since 2
>>>> weeks. :/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> AnAkIn,
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