If they would simply prevent people from joining servers with client side plugins loaded, people would simply code a client side plugin which bypass this. The better way is just to remove the possibility of loading client side plugins at all.
2010/5/12 Kigen <theki...@gmail.com> > What Kyle is trying to point out is that the problem shouldn't even > exist in the first place. VALVe should be preventing people from > joining servers while plugins are loaded via the VSP interface. > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Nicholas Hastings <nshasti...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I totally disagree. If they were using it to cheat then it doesn't > > matter in the least whether or not they were expecting to get VACbanned > > or not, nor how the ban came about. That guy even admitted he was speed > > hacking with it. One less idiot plaguing servers. > > > > On 5/12/2010 3:51 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: > >> Both http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=126487 and > >> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=935780 are interesting > >> reads. > >> > >> The player was manually VAC banned by one "Al" or "Professor > >> Farnsworth" for running SourceMod as a client plugin. VAC is supposed > >> to be an automatic system, and not one that can be triggered manually > >> by any Valve employee. This defunctionality really needs to be removed > >> from the engine, as it's getting absolutely ridiculous. > >> > >> Kyle. > >> > >> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:36 AM, ics<i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > >> > >>> With that logic, a sourcemod in players pc isn't a cheat but you can > >>> override your own setting r_drawothermodels 2 and you see through walls > >>> even if the cheats are off on the server. This is exactly the reason > why > >>> plugins in clients suck. Changing viewmodel isn't allowed in L4D2 by > >>> default, as those cvars are behind sv_cheats as far as i know. This > >>> plugin just bypasses it. > >>> > >>> -ics > >>> > >>> 12.5.2010 17:55, HL-SDK Synths kirjoitti: > >>> > >>>> Apologies for the double post (I'm not sure how that works on a > mailing > >>>> list. > >>>> > >>>> This plugin doesn't change sv_cheats, it is not a cheat and deserves > no > >>>> special consideration. It will not be deleted either. > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:42 AM, AnAkIn .<anakin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Now there is a client side L4D2 plugin to change cheat cvars like fov > and > >>>>> viewmodel_fov. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1242368 > >>>>> > >>>>> For some reason it still hasn't been deleted, and it's been posted > since 2 > >>>>> weeks. :/ > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> AnAkIn, > >>>>> ------------- > >>>>> ESL EU TF2 Admin > >>>>> http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Best regards, AnAkIn, ------------- ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
