Last I checked, srcds is free to download and run. And nobody is forcing you to spend money on hardware or rent from a server provider. If you don't like how things are being run, nothing is stopping you from taking your server down.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Stephen A Yates <[email protected]> wrote: > For the record, while I agree this is Valve's game, the servers we run are > bought, paid, leased, etc by the same people you are now looking monitor. > Valve has always encouraged creativity and uniqueness in its communities and > yet now they want to monitor. > > As server operators, we ban or kick people based on our community > guidelines. We monitor our admin logs and we discuss bans and other > enforcement. We will even let people petition to have their bans reversed > and in most cases it works. > > Now VALVE is going to read a complaint and determine if it sounds right > without knowing the full story. > > I support VALVE and i believe in our servers but I feel this is unnecessary. > Players will find good servers on their own. > > I hope my concerns are unfounded. > > Fletcher Dunn <[email protected]> wrote: > >>We are going to add a combo box to the abuse reporting tool and enumerate >>some categories of abuse. We hope that will help both players and agme >>servers get an idea of what we consider abusive. However, those are just >>examples. There will always be an "other" category, and there's a reason we >>require the description field. The system is purposefully fuzzy. >> >>The purpose of the in-game abuse reporter is to identify game servers where >>players are not having fun, due to a game server atmosphere. This negatively >>affects our game as a whole. We're not going to draw a bright line and >>define precisely what is OK and what is not. If your users are reporting a >>high degree of abuse, we're going to read the descriptions of what they are >>saying and decide if we think it's reasonable or not. >> >>As I said in the other post, if your players are having fun, I think you have >>nothing to worry about. The purpose of this tool is locate the worst >>offenses. We will not be straying into the gray area or punishing >>well-intentioned game server operators who experimenting with rule changes, >>or who get abuse reports just because some people don't like nocrits or >>medieval mode. >> >>I think everybody here can understand that there is quite a difference >>between purposefully concealing major rule changes (i.e. hacking the tags >>that are designed to advertise those rule changes, purposefully making bots >>look as if they are real players, etc), and customizing your server to >>provide the experience your players want. Or locking players in place while >>certain players rush around to collect the gift drops, if those players >>didn't opt in to that experience. >> >>We just want to locate game servers that are clearly abusing players. We >>don't need to draw a bright line because we don't plan to go near it, >>wherever it may be. >> >>- Fletch >> >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E. Olsen >>Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:34 AM >>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>Subject: Re: [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool >> >>That's a valid question - an abuse reporting system has been put in place, >>without telling the users what consittutes abuse (which I think would lead to >>many more false reports than not). Some guidelines (both for users and server >>operators) might be beneficial, both to keep down the number of nuisance >>reports, AND help the server operators to stay in compliance. It's all well >>and good to say that Valve reserves the right to ban servers/IP's for abuse, >>but without knowing what the rules/guidelines are, it's giving operators an >>invisible line and telling us "don't cross this". >>On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>wrote: >>What is considered as abusive behaviour? >>___________________________________________________________ >>SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE<http://WEB.DE> FreeMail - einfach, schnell und >>kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
