It's still not easy to change the drive specific hardware ID for most people. And do you really think cheaters are going to play in a VM then?
2012/3/3 Cameron Munroe <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com>: > I built my pc, so there is no real SN/Manu. The drives are just drive info, > Pretty much all of this is useless except maybe MAC addresses and even then > all I have to do is create a VM and boom I am set and can make as many > accounts as I want. > > On 3/3/2012 2:29 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: >> >> Maybe they could use the hardware information that the Steam client >> already send them every time you log in? >> - Network cards >> - CD/DVD/Hard drives and others >> (MediaType/Index/DeviceID/SerialNumber/Manufacturer) >> - OS (Version, CD Key) >> + more stuff >> >> 2012/3/3 Cameron Munroe<cmun...@cameronmunroe.com>: >>> >>> Really, how would you track this? Ip ~ no. So what? The fact is NAT is so >>> extensive now that tracking via IP is ineffective at best. >>> >>> >>> On 3/3/2012 1:43 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: >>>> >>>> As if Valve never thought of doing that. Back when F2P got released >>>> they said they would do something against people creating multiple >>>> accounts, and they never done anything. >>>> >>>> 2012/3/3 Rob Liu<robl...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Here's my 2cents on this issue. >>>>> Make Steam guard mandatory. And put a limit on how many free to play >>>>> accounts a user can create? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald >>>>> <voo...@voogru.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That doesn’t do much good for things like aimbots. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I personally don’t like the idea of preventing them from joining, but >>>>>> simply taking away things that they might be able to abuse. My >>>>>> dodgeball >>>>>> servers for example doesn’t allow f2p to use, or hear anyone on voice >>>>>> comm. >>>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Spencer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron >>>>>> Munroe >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is like saying I will not sell my product to "greens." It is not >>>>>> effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just want to >>>>>> beef up >>>>>> your security with sourcemod and some plugins. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot more >>>>>> vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so it only >>>>>> takes >>>>>> half as many votes against f2p to take action. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, "Russell Smith"<ve...@tinylittlerobots.us> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use >>>>>> SourceTV on autorecord. Then just reference the time of the ban with >>>>>> the >>>>>> time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the supposed >>>>>> cheater. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them... >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://list.v... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
