Speedhacks and wallhacks could be blocked with server side code if Valve wanted to.
2012/3/4 Frank T. O'Connor <[email protected]>: > The whole reason game hacking works to begin with is you have to trust the > client. Everything you just listed can easily be intercepted at runtime, and > dynamic spoofed values given. Also, you aren't allowed to use MS product keys > for anything. They can't legally be used to track or identify people. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise > > Maybe they could use the hardware information that the Steam client already > send them every time you log in? > - Network cards > - CD/DVD/Hard drives and others > (MediaType/Index/DeviceID/SerialNumber/Manufacturer) > - OS (Version, CD Key) > + more stuff > > 2012/3/3 Cameron Munroe <[email protected]>: >> Really, how would you track this? Ip ~ no. So what? The fact is NAT is >> so extensive now that tracking via IP is ineffective at best. >> >> >> On 3/3/2012 1:43 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: >>> >>> As if Valve never thought of doing that. Back when F2P got released >>> they said they would do something against people creating multiple >>> accounts, and they never done anything. >>> >>> 2012/3/3 Rob Liu<[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Here's my 2cents on this issue. >>>> Make Steam guard mandatory. And put a limit on how many free to >>>> play accounts a user can create? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't do much good for things like aimbots. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I personally don't like the idea of preventing them from joining, >>>>> but simply taking away things that they might be able to abuse. My >>>>> dodgeball servers for example doesn't allow f2p to use, or hear >>>>> anyone on voice comm. >>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Spencer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron >>>>> Munroe >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is like saying I will not sell my product to "greens." It is >>>>> not effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just >>>>> want to beef up your security with sourcemod and some plugins. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: >>>>> >>>>> One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot >>>>> more vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so >>>>> it only takes half as many votes against f2p to take action. >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, "Russell Smith"<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use >>>>> SourceTV on autorecord. Then just reference the time of the ban >>>>> with the time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of >>>>> the supposed cheater. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> https://list.v... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > -- > Best regards, > AnAkIn > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
