Actually the server should not send the positions of the players who are not visible at all, this is what Anti Wallhack plugins do.
2012/3/4 hlds <[email protected]>: > This. It's well within Valve's ability to put in server code that's as > simple as; > > if (($playerone can't legally see $playertwo) && ($playerone killed > $Playertwo)) then ban > > if ($player ismovingwaytoofuckingfast == $true) then ban > > I do not care how trusted the client must be, these are things than can and > are not blocked by Valve on the server's side. > > > > > On 3/4/2012 5:18 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: >> >> Speedhacks and wallhacks could be blocked with server side code if >> Valve wanted to. >> >> 2012/3/4 Frank T. O'Connor<[email protected]>: >>> >>> The whole reason game hacking works to begin with is you have to trust >>> the client. Everything you just listed can easily be intercepted at runtime, >>> and dynamic spoofed values given. Also, you aren't allowed to use MS product >>> keys for anything. They can't legally be used to track or identify people. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . >>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise >>> >>> Maybe they could use the hardware information that the Steam client >>> already send them every time you log in? >>> - Network cards >>> - CD/DVD/Hard drives and others >>> (MediaType/Index/DeviceID/SerialNumber/Manufacturer) >>> - OS (Version, CD Key) >>> + more stuff >>> >>> 2012/3/3 Cameron Munroe<[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Really, how would you track this? Ip ~ no. So what? The fact is NAT is >>>> so extensive now that tracking via IP is ineffective at best. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/3/2012 1:43 AM, AnAkIn . wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As if Valve never thought of doing that. Back when F2P got released >>>>> they said they would do something against people creating multiple >>>>> accounts, and they never done anything. >>>>> >>>>> 2012/3/3 Rob Liu<[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's my 2cents on this issue. >>>>>> Make Steam guard mandatory. And put a limit on how many free to >>>>>> play accounts a user can create? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That doesn't do much good for things like aimbots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I personally don't like the idea of preventing them from joining, >>>>>>> but simply taking away things that they might be able to abuse. My >>>>>>> dodgeball servers for example doesn't allow f2p to use, or hear >>>>>>> anyone on voice comm. >>>>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Spencer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron >>>>>>> Munroe >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is like saying I will not sell my product to "greens." It is >>>>>>> not effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just >>>>>>> want to beef up your security with sourcemod and some plugins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot >>>>>>> more vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so >>>>>>> it only takes half as many votes against f2p to take action. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, "Russell Smith"<[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use >>>>>>> SourceTV on autorecord. Then just reference the time of the ban >>>>>>> with the time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of >>>>>>> the supposed cheater. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.v... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> AnAkIn >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
