None of that stuff makes much sense to me. Frankly, it sounds like way too much work.
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:58 PM, proto type <[email protected]>wrote: > Feels like they penalized some servers not the others. Groups like Lotus > and ProTF2 are not only running BOTS and fakeclients but ProTF2 is also > using credit mod which i thought was against Valve's TOS. > > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, E. Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm really not sure why people act surprised when they get penalized for >> these things. Fletcher was pretty clear what kinds of things they would be >> penalizing for: Fake clients, making bots look like real players, and >> failing to set the correct tags when you have fast respawn enabled. >> >> We were guilty of the last thing (omitting the fast respawn tag), but I >> fixed that based on advice from Fletcher Dunn (altering the plugin so that >> "mp_respawnwavetime" is altered when we have the fast respawn plugin >> enabled, which forces the proper tag to be added to the browser). >> >> I've never understood why some operators think the only way to fill >> servers is to "trick" players into joining. We've never used fake clients >> or any of that other stuff, and our servers do just fine. You just need to >> make it worth your player's while to help low-populations servers get going >> everyday. Recently, we added a cross-platform feature that allows our >> players to earn units of our minecraft currency (used on our minecraft >> server) in return for helping those servers get started everyday. For every >> 10 minutes they spend helping a low-population server get going, they get >> minecraft $$$ to spend in our minecraft server (all tracked in real time >> via a database). >> >> Think outside the box, instead of trying to shortcut your way to server >> traffic, and you'll have much better results in the long-term. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM, m33crob <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think you guys are possibly focusing too much on the OP. I had a >>> discussion a few days ago with an admin from a different very large >>> community about this topic. I do not believe that this is specific to >>> Wonka Gaming. My interpretation of these events is that: because the >>> Policy of Truth is not being enforced, because servers are continuing to >>> use this fake client program, and because of the unfairness with QuickPlay, >>> "many" communities are collaborating to release this plugin in an attempt >>> to force VALVe into action. >>> >>> Is this really the best course of action? I don't know. It does seem >>> that the above factors have polarized the community and forced some >>> operators into using extremely dirty tactics to compete for traffic. >>> >>> Also for the record, I do not and have never used this program or >>> anything else that VALVe would frown upon. >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Brodie <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I second this; would really love to understand what OP was going on >>>> about. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM, jainil shah <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> can somebody tl:dr what op is trying to say? >>>>> sorry, i am not a tf2 player. i operate cs 1.6 servers. >>>>> >>>>> this thread as been buzzing my phone alot and now i wanna know whats >>>>> going on >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, EvilMacGuyver < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would buy a ticket to watch this but I know the match would only >>>>>> last a minute. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Jethro Seabridge < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And Wonka Gaming get to call the FBI to scramble their network. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Itaku <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think there is only one appropriate action to this entire thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Valve employees vs Wonka Gaming in an arena match. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And Valve gets to use the Valve weapons. >>>>>>>> On May 4, 2012 7:40 AM, "zach isaac" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well would you look at the time. *Looks at his watch, revealing >>>>>>>>> its banhammer o'clock* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM, admin <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Is Policy of Truth still in effect? Because I see users with >>>>>>>>>> fakeclient spoof + bot join time running * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> *ON WELL OVER 80 SERVERS* >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> *or does this only apply to WONKAGAMING? for when you banned me >>>>>>>>>> for one month?!* >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> *Fletcher Dunn? Hello i'll start posting in here because you >>>>>>>>>> tend not to care for users running it* >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> *I will be releasing fix to FAKE CLIENT + BOT JOIN TIME in hlds >>>>>>>>>> if these server are not banned.* >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> This communication is for use by the intended recipient and >>>>>>>>>> contains information that may be Privileged, confidential or >>>>>>>>>> copyrighted >>>>>>>>>> under applicable law. 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