Don't go running your mouth when you don't have any evidence. And the credits mod is in no way against Valve's TOS. The way I look at it is if Valve wanted hat effects out, they would have done so during the hatless update.
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 12:58:14 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Policy of Truth?? Feels like they penalized some servers not the others. Groups like Lotus and ProTF2 are not only running BOTS and fakeclients but ProTF2 is also using credit mod which i thought was against Valve's TOS. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, E. Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: I'm really not sure why people act surprised when they get penalized for these things. Fletcher was pretty clear what kinds of things they would be penalizing for: Fake clients, making bots look like real players, and failing to set the correct tags when you have fast respawn enabled. We were guilty of the last thing (omitting the fast respawn tag), but I fixed that based on advice from Fletcher Dunn (altering the plugin so that "mp_respawnwavetime" is altered when we have the fast respawn plugin enabled, which forces the proper tag to be added to the browser). I've never understood why some operators think the only way to fill servers is to "trick" players into joining. We've never used fake clients or any of that other stuff, and our servers do just fine. You just need to make it worth your player's while to help low-populations servers get going everyday. Recently, we added a cross-platform feature that allows our players to earn units of our minecraft currency (used on our minecraft server) in return for helping those servers get started everyday. For every 10 minutes they spend helping a low-population server get going, they get minecraft $$$ to spend in our minecraft server (all tracked in real time via a database). Think outside the box, instead of trying to shortcut your way to server traffic, and you'll have much better results in the long-term. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM, m33crob <[email protected]> wrote: I think you guys are possibly focusing too much on the OP. I had a discussion a few days ago with an admin from a different very large community about this topic. I do not believe that this is specific to Wonka Gaming. My interpretation of these events is that: because the Policy of Truth is not being enforced, because servers are continuing to use this fake client program, and because of the unfairness with QuickPlay, "many" communities are collaborating to release this plugin in an attempt to force VALVe into action. Is this really the best course of action? I don't know. It does seem that the above factors have polarized the community and forced some operators into using extremely dirty tactics to compete for traffic. Also for the record, I do not and have never used this program or anything else that VALVe would frown upon. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Brodie <[email protected]> wrote: I second this; would really love to understand what OP was going on about. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM, jainil shah <[email protected]> wrote: can somebody tl:dr what op is trying to say?sorry, i am not a tf2 player. i operate cs 1.6 servers. this thread as been buzzing my phone alot and now i wanna know whats going on On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, EvilMacGuyver <[email protected]> wrote: I would buy a ticket to watch this but I know the match would only last a minute. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Jethro Seabridge <[email protected]> wrote: And Wonka Gaming get to call the FBI to scramble their network. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Itaku <[email protected]> wrote: I think there is only one appropriate action to this entire thing. Valve employees vs Wonka Gaming in an arena match. And Valve gets to use the Valve weapons. On May 4, 2012 7:40 AM, "zach isaac" <[email protected]> wrote: Well would you look at the time. *Looks at his watch, revealing its banhammer o'clock* On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM, admin <[email protected]> wrote: Is Policy of Truth still in effect? Because I see users with fakeclient spoof + bot join time running ON WELL OVER 80 SERVERS or does this only apply to WONKAGAMING? for when you banned me for one month?! Fletcher Dunn? Hello i'll start posting in here because you tend not to care for users running it I will be releasing fix to FAKE CLIENT + BOT JOIN TIME in hlds if these server are not banned. -- This communication is for use by the intended recipient and contains information that may be Privileged, confidential or copyrighted under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby formally notified that any use, copying or distribution of this e-mail, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. 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