I've never used quickplay to find a game ever.
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:32 AM, 1nsane <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unfortunately valve doesn't really need us anymore. They can't monetize maps > or custom game modes. Once quickplay was added with its preference for > certain "noob friendly" maps a number of valve's own maps (and game modes) > stopped being played. You'd think they would want more variety so players > stick around for longer. Other online FPS games tend to rotate through all > their maps. > > At this point the only important part of the user generated content for them > is the item creators as they make the money. But this seems to be > shortsighted, like you said custom maps and custom game modes that valve > previously loved to take and add officially to their games will now become a > rarity. > > > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:17 AM, E. Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: >> Agreed. >> >> It's one thing to make such a drastic change, it's another to re-route >> 40-50% of all TF2 traffic away from every non-valve server on the planet in >> one fell swoop. If this change stands as-is, there's not a single server >> operator on the planet that will be able to launch a new vanilla server (or >> almost any kind of server, for that matter), because unless a server already >> has a following, it will never be able to build up the momentum when less >> than half the player base will even be able to find it. >> >> Here's the thing, folks: >> >> It's been proven time and time again that Mods extend the lifetime of a game >> (look at what Day Z did last year for Arma 2). The diversity of TF2 is what >> has kept it going all these years....yet a change like this actively steers >> half (or more) of the current playerbase, and probably the vast majority of >> every new player AWAY from ever finding a custom map, mod, or game mode. >> >> If "official valve vanilla" is all you want - then this change is wonderful >> for you (and you should have that "option"), but should this remain the >> "default" setting that every client is now set to, Valve has hastened along >> the death of the very game they are trying to protect. >> >> Why would anyone even bother creating a map for TF2 now? How would it ever >> see any kind of significant traffic? >> >> How about custom game modes? We were hosting a "King of the Hill" server >> (using custom maps made for that game mode) for over a year BEFORE it became >> an official game mode with official maps - think anyone will or would be >> able to throw up a new server or game mode under these conditions? >> >> I think we all understand why Valve thinks they had to do this - all the >> "Pinion Profiteers" made them think this was necessary - but make no >> mistake, these were problems that were CREATED by quickplay in the first >> place, so in one fell swoop, Valve has not only created the problem, but >> they have used the same system that created it to essentially throw out all >> the "good" servers with the bad. Any non-valve server that does not already >> have a significant amount of "regulars" will now die on the vine....and >> there won't be any new non-valve servers going up to replace them. >> >> It's a shame, folks. This change effectively takes the "community" out of >> TF2, and turns it into just another random, casual, anonymous FPS. >> >> It's was a rarity already to have a game that was 7+ years old that still >> had new clans and communities forming around it - but a change like this >> will make it all but impossible for any new TF2 communities to even get >> started. >> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Emil Larsson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I wouldn't had mind the valve only server option, but it shouldn't be the >>> default certainly. We're also certainly noticing a decrease of players now, >>> and I just feel punished for playing by the rules. >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Stephen A. Yates <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> I am not trying to start shit… I am just stating my opinion. Quickplay has >>>> been killing our servers for a long time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyrai >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:25 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released >>>> >>>> >>>> It looks like that community's servers were already shutting down due to >>>> admin burnout. Nothing related to this in any way. Maybe just an attempt >>>> to start shit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ragorism <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's why it's called an 'option', you fucking mongoloid. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Really? >>>> >>>> >>>> - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers >>>> >>>> We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the >>>> launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we >>>> were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end >>>> to new players finding their way to our servers and community. >>>> >>>> Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. >>>> >>>> We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. >>>> >>>> Peace out. >>>> >>>> -SpikerNoob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tee hee hee hee >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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