Valve pretty much specifically created quickplay to keep people on valve
servers (given how it worked out). I don't see any reason why they
should show up in the server browser *by default* as well.
The issue isn't just based on bad representation of the servers, but
also on a non-existent reputation system for third party servers.
If you join a random community server, unfortunately it will almost
always spam you with ads (some even force you to re-enable motds, you
wont be able to join a team otherwise). These servers should be
nuked/completely removed from the list. Yes, there will always be a
black sheep, but it will lead to people more easily recognizing unique
and new ways to play tf2, and that server hosting is actually/used to be
about sharing the passion one feels for the game (and not making money).
On 05.07.2015 03:27, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote:
“But yeah. The default should be ... well... the default.”
The default should show everything. Let players filter them out on
their own. If they don’t want to filter and search for a server, I
think they have a feature for that already. I think it’s called..
quickplay.
I don’t know if you remember the days of the “Custom” tab. But I do.
You could have a completely vanilla gameplay server, with 32 players,
and get stuck on the “Custom” tab. If you were on the custom tab, your
server saw no traffic, nobody went a tab over to look for ‘Custom”
servers. If you pulled the required shenanigans to get put onto the
internet tab, your server got plenty of traffic, and everybody that
saw the server in the list, knew it was a 32 player because they still
reported as 32 players to the players.
If the players didn’t want to play there, they’d simply click on
another server.
Fine. Let them click on a checkbox “Show valve official servers only.”
Don’t get me wrong, I see where you are coming from, you want to be
able to quickly get onto a server without silly gameplay mods,
pay-to-cheat or advertising nonsense going on. On the flip side,
segregating custom servers by default, will just be the death of those
servers.
Don’t forget that the valve servers have problems too, most notably
the fact that they are unmoderated. So if you have a player putting
hardcore porn sprays, or an engineer that thinks he’s quite the
comedian building teleporters that take you further back, or the
sniper with aimbot that hasn’t been vac banned yet with his free steam
account…you’re kind of stuck with them.
- Voogru.
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Vector
*Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 8:32 PM
*To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
>I honestly find it comical that people think those servers are a good
representation of what the game should be (or, frankly, are any fun at
all).
and this is why I rarely post here. Because most people here are not
willing to listen to the other side of things and meet in the middle.
Insulting people who like the Valve servers is not the way to go if
you are wanting to work with Valve to get some compromise going.
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