-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred, Thanks for the quick response! =) Glad to see some solid feedback. As for testing, is your Debian server the server used to either give the thumbs up or down for releases after they are frozen and compiled into binaries? Is the kernel kept up-to-date with Etch or is it sitting on the default kernel packaged with Etch. Also, what kind of testing is done to ensure the system is in fact working properly? I think running at least two instances of the server would be very beneficial, and if possible, adding some sort of testing into a sub-zero nice value for both processes would be very beneficial (even -5 causes the same issues as -20, anything below 0 is a problem).
And lastly, I would assume that since Debian Etch is the testing platform, that it could be considering (either officially or unofficially) the preferred platform for running SourceDS? I'm just trying to find something that can be standardized so I can eliminate the "It's your kernel/OS/*insert package version here* to blame" game that seems to happen a lot. Also, I'd be more than willing to show and point out a few major issues aside from the ones the developers are working out that are easily repeatable in our server environment (system locking up with dual -20 nice values, banned_users/ip being emptied out on server initialization and needing re-written via console). And lastly, if any of the devs have any general (or specific) suggestions or comments about how to make things run better, please pass those along if possible. As always, I appreciate your help Alfred! =) -tsuehpsyde SourceKills.com On 7/31/07, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > > We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > > - Alfred > > tsuehpsyde wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Alfred, > > > > I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > > contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > > takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > > can we get some > > sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > > configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > > a back > > seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > > or so > > ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > > vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > > the > > right track. > > > > These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > > Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > > > 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > > deployment? > > > > 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > > this > > platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > > kernel's .config file? > > > > 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > > etc.) are > > used? > > > > Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > > considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > > game. I > > don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > > servers to > > keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > > doing, > > but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > > ability to > > renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > > spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > > and I (as well as > > other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > > It > > appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > > However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > > Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > > frustrating since > > setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to > > remove it every time it breaks (and game server performance suffers > > from > > it). > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > -tsuehpsyde > > SourceKills.com > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
