rarely does anyone mention that On 8/1/07, kama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dont forget DragonFly... =) > > Well, if they just say. "This will be released on FreeBSD REL-X". Then > everyone knows what to run. The choice of FreeBSD is quite simple, since > it is the one with the largest user base. > > It is within FreeBSD policy that a binary should be runable during every > mayor version of the OS. And if they decide todo so I would recommend them > to start at REL-7 that will be released "any day now". Then they dont have > to worry too much for at least 3 years until REL-9 is due and REL-7 goes > unsupported. > > Recent tests also prove that CURRENT (which will become REL-7) is faster > and scales better than Linux. Especially on larger SMP systems. Linux did > have the advantage during REL-5 and REL-6, but much work have been done to > make it more competitive and have now passed on some real life tests. Like > MySQL tests or network speed tests. > > And dont forget the most important part... FreeBSD doesnt need to > recompile the kernel to change the HZ-value!!! ;p > > /Bjorn > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, [UTF-8] OndÅ^Yej HoÅ¡ek wrote: > > > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical > > BSDs. > > > > Sure, no more worries. :-P > > > > I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different > > versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the > > BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather > > stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? > > Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: > > different versions of everything. > > > > With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. > > > > ~~ Ondra > > > > P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is > > more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing > > Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out > > one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. > > > > On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: > > > Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p > > > > > > /Bjorn > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > > >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > > >>> at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > > >>> the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > > >>> > > >>> We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > > >>> have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > > >>> > > >>> - Alfred > > >>> > > >>> tsuehpsyde wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > >>>> Alfred, > > >>>> > > >>>> I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > > >>>> contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > > >>>> takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > > >>>> can we get some > > >>>> sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > > >>>> configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > > >>>> a back > > >>>> seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > > >>>> or so > > >>>> ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > > >>>> vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > > >>>> the > > >>>> right track. > > >>>> > > >>>> These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > > >>>> Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > >>>> > > >>>> 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > > >>>> deployment? > > >>>> > > >>>> 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > > >>>> this > > >>>> platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > > >>>> kernel's .config file? > > >>>> > > >>>> 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > > >>>> etc.) are > > >>>> used? > > >>>> > > >>>> Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > > >>>> considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > > >>>> game. I > > >>>> don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > > >>>> servers to > > >>>> keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > > >>>> doing, > > >>>> but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > > >>>> ability to > > >>>> renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > > >>>> spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > > >>>> and I (as well as > > >>>> other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > > >>>> It > > >>>> appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > > >>>> However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > > >>>> Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > > >>>> frustrating since > > >>>> setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to > > >>>> remove it every time it breaks (and game server performance suffers > > >>>> from > > >>>> it). > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks for your time, > > >>>> > > >>>> -tsuehpsyde > > >>>> SourceKills.com > > >>>> -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >
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