First of all, I don't use filters. I do all my debugging with them off. Although I see now I was wrong on the point about setting the filters and then doing the pings. I was thinking about setting filters after a search that doesn't include a country filter.
Either way, setting filters doesn't fix the problem, and therefore I don't use them. What I'm trying to do is get this issue out into the open, because there are a lot of people who have this issue either don't care enough to make a deal about it, and the ones who post about it and are told it's an issue with their router, a real poor excuse if you ask me. - Ian Ronny Schedel wrote: > You are wrong. If you apply filters, the steam browser send these filters to > the master server. And the master server respond only to given filter > settings. The response is less than without any filters. So, it's your turn > to setup appropriate filters. > > > >> I wish it were that easy, sir. You should do some research on this topic >> because it gets cluttered with myths and misinformation. This probably >> affects a lot of people, and applying filters does not make it go away. >> (as it still pings those servers, just doesn't display them) >> >> I've called my ISP so many times over this. It acts like a virus, >> pinging every IP as fast as it can. It doesn't eat up bandwidth, but it >> does hit that connections limit. This issue does not show up in COD4's >> server browser. There's is very smooth and efficient in its method of >> getting the server info and pings from thousands of servers without >> pausing once, without causing your connection to go out. The method >> steam's browser is using is very inefficient. And none of the >> workarounds published on their site fix the problem. No, caferate >> doesn't do the job. >> >> - Ian >> >> Mark Chandler wrote: >> >>> Ok, there is a country filter for a reason (so you dont pull in 10k >>> random server you will never join). >>> >>> The server browser has to connect to every server in the list to get >>> information for it (number of players, map etc) so thats why it is >>> making lots of connections. >>> >>> From memory the server browser starts at ip address close to yours >>> and works it way out (from both sides) so you are likly to get low >>> ping servers first. >>> >>> >>> I dont see any of these things as problems. >>> >>> >>> Mark. >>> >>> >>> On 18/01/2009, at 10:42 PM, Ian Shaffer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> About: Steam server browser/router excuse >>>> >>>> I've done a lot of research into this problem. It has nothing to do >>>> with >>>> my router. This issue exists in every single configuration, wired to >>>> the >>>> modem, wired to the router, and also on wireless. You guys must >>>> realize >>>> that I'm not the only one who's having this issue. I think that it >>>> would >>>> be in your best interest to hear me out. >>>> >>>> http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/707/20090118kc5.jpg >>>> >>>> Look at the screen shot. I just did a steam server browser search and >>>> this is where it stopped and displayed Refresh All, indicating that >>>> the >>>> search was complete. >>>> >>>> This isn't the first time it's stopped either. Whenever I do a server >>>> browser search in the source engine or the out of game browser, let me >>>> explain what actually happens, and why you to listen. >>>> >>>> When I open the browser, it starts searching, pausing every 200 or 500 >>>> servers apart, very slowly. Once it hits anywhere near 500-600, it >>>> stops, or pauses, per say because it's still going. After anywhere >>>> between 3 and 10 seconds later, it goes again, stopping another 500 or >>>> 600 above. Then it pauses much longer, and then resumes. It'll do this >>>> until it reaches a point when the list stops refreshing, probably >>>> because it notices my internet is being knocked out and therefore >>>> stops, >>>> or maybe it believes that this is all the servers and therefore >>>> stops as >>>> well. Either way, it's a serious problem. >>>> >>>> Now, as I did, and most others who have had this issue have gone on >>>> the >>>> support site and forum, trying to find a solution. I've made posts as >>>> well on the steam forums, check out this one: >>>> >>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698242 >>>> >>>> Stop telling us it's a router issue, because it ISNT. >>>> >>>> I've spoken with my ISP. They've acknowledged the fact that their is a >>>> 700 limit for concurrent connections, the only real limit the have. >>>> I've >>>> gone as far as to get their engineers to test the steam application's >>>> server browser, where they've taken off the limit and have stress >>>> tested >>>> it, pointing out that at one point they were able to see the browser >>>> pulling over 50,000 flows of connections. They've called it word for >>>> word, virus-like, because thats why they have the 700 connections cap, >>>> to stop viruses from infecting everyone on the network. >>>> >>>> One of the engineers are very familiar with the steam and has >>>> claimed to >>>> have contacted you guys at Valve about the matter, but no responses >>>> have >>>> ever been given. >>>> >>>> Listen. This is a bug with your software. Not the ISP. Many other ISPs >>>> in the world do the same thing. Just google it. It's there. Look at >>>> your >>>> own forum! >>>> >>>> I have presented this information to you in hopes that you will better >>>> understand the seriousness of this issue. >>>> >>>> There are thousands and thousands of server operators over the >>>> countries >>>> of this earth who's servers are sitting empty due to this problem. >>>> Now, >>>> this problem doesn't happen to all of us. I'm sure there's a lot of >>>> IPSs >>>> out there that have no filtering, and therefore that mandates that >>>> there >>>> is no bug. >>>> >>>> There is. Either face it or ignore it. I'll still play your games, >>>> I'll >>>> still host your games. I'll just listen in and hope for a response. >>>> I'll >>>> hope others will concur with me, present their data, their >>>> situations to >>>> the board, and then let valve decide whether a decision must be made. >>>> >>>> That is all. >>>> >>>> - Ian >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
