99% dont have an issue because they use the filters. Why dont you use filters? Do you really care that much about other countries servers?
I would also suggest that your isp is giving you the raw prawn about the max connections, its just there way of limiting the effect of p2p as i can have over a 1000 on my adsl line. Mark On 19/01/2009, at 12:40 AM, Ian Shaffer wrote: > First of all, I don't use filters. I do all my debugging with them > off. > Although I see now I was wrong on the point about setting the filters > and then doing the pings. I was thinking about setting filters after a > search that doesn't include a country filter. > > Either way, setting filters doesn't fix the problem, and therefore I > don't use them. What I'm trying to do is get this issue out into the > open, because there are a lot of people who have this issue either > don't > care enough to make a deal about it, and the ones who post about it > and > are told it's an issue with their router, a real poor excuse if you > ask me. > > - Ian > > Ronny Schedel wrote: >> You are wrong. If you apply filters, the steam browser send these >> filters to >> the master server. And the master server respond only to given filter >> settings. The response is less than without any filters. So, it's >> your turn >> to setup appropriate filters. >> >> >> >>> I wish it were that easy, sir. You should do some research on this >>> topic >>> because it gets cluttered with myths and misinformation. This >>> probably >>> affects a lot of people, and applying filters does not make it go >>> away. >>> (as it still pings those servers, just doesn't display them) >>> >>> I've called my ISP so many times over this. It acts like a virus, >>> pinging every IP as fast as it can. It doesn't eat up bandwidth, >>> but it >>> does hit that connections limit. This issue does not show up in >>> COD4's >>> server browser. There's is very smooth and efficient in its method >>> of >>> getting the server info and pings from thousands of servers without >>> pausing once, without causing your connection to go out. The method >>> steam's browser is using is very inefficient. And none of the >>> workarounds published on their site fix the problem. No, caferate >>> doesn't do the job. >>> >>> - Ian >>> >>> Mark Chandler wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, there is a country filter for a reason (so you dont pull in 10k >>>> random server you will never join). >>>> >>>> The server browser has to connect to every server in the list to >>>> get >>>> information for it (number of players, map etc) so thats why it is >>>> making lots of connections. >>>> >>>> From memory the server browser starts at ip address close to yours >>>> and works it way out (from both sides) so you are likly to get low >>>> ping servers first. >>>> >>>> >>>> I dont see any of these things as problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18/01/2009, at 10:42 PM, Ian Shaffer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> About: Steam server browser/router excuse >>>>> >>>>> I've done a lot of research into this problem. It has nothing to >>>>> do >>>>> with >>>>> my router. This issue exists in every single configuration, >>>>> wired to >>>>> the >>>>> modem, wired to the router, and also on wireless. You guys must >>>>> realize >>>>> that I'm not the only one who's having this issue. I think that it >>>>> would >>>>> be in your best interest to hear me out. >>>>> >>>>> http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/707/20090118kc5.jpg >>>>> >>>>> Look at the screen shot. I just did a steam server browser >>>>> search and >>>>> this is where it stopped and displayed Refresh All, indicating >>>>> that >>>>> the >>>>> search was complete. >>>>> >>>>> This isn't the first time it's stopped either. Whenever I do a >>>>> server >>>>> browser search in the source engine or the out of game browser, >>>>> let me >>>>> explain what actually happens, and why you to listen. >>>>> >>>>> When I open the browser, it starts searching, pausing every 200 >>>>> or 500 >>>>> servers apart, very slowly. Once it hits anywhere near 500-600, it >>>>> stops, or pauses, per say because it's still going. After anywhere >>>>> between 3 and 10 seconds later, it goes again, stopping another >>>>> 500 or >>>>> 600 above. Then it pauses much longer, and then resumes. It'll >>>>> do this >>>>> until it reaches a point when the list stops refreshing, probably >>>>> because it notices my internet is being knocked out and therefore >>>>> stops, >>>>> or maybe it believes that this is all the servers and therefore >>>>> stops as >>>>> well. Either way, it's a serious problem. >>>>> >>>>> Now, as I did, and most others who have had this issue have gone >>>>> on >>>>> the >>>>> support site and forum, trying to find a solution. I've made >>>>> posts as >>>>> well on the steam forums, check out this one: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698242 >>>>> >>>>> Stop telling us it's a router issue, because it ISNT. >>>>> >>>>> I've spoken with my ISP. They've acknowledged the fact that >>>>> their is a >>>>> 700 limit for concurrent connections, the only real limit the >>>>> have. >>>>> I've >>>>> gone as far as to get their engineers to test the steam >>>>> application's >>>>> server browser, where they've taken off the limit and have stress >>>>> tested >>>>> it, pointing out that at one point they were able to see the >>>>> browser >>>>> pulling over 50,000 flows of connections. They've called it word >>>>> for >>>>> word, virus-like, because thats why they have the 700 >>>>> connections cap, >>>>> to stop viruses from infecting everyone on the network. >>>>> >>>>> One of the engineers are very familiar with the steam and has >>>>> claimed to >>>>> have contacted you guys at Valve about the matter, but no >>>>> responses >>>>> have >>>>> ever been given. >>>>> >>>>> Listen. This is a bug with your software. Not the ISP. Many >>>>> other ISPs >>>>> in the world do the same thing. Just google it. It's there. Look >>>>> at >>>>> your >>>>> own forum! >>>>> >>>>> I have presented this information to you in hopes that you will >>>>> better >>>>> understand the seriousness of this issue. >>>>> >>>>> There are thousands and thousands of server operators over the >>>>> countries >>>>> of this earth who's servers are sitting empty due to this problem. >>>>> Now, >>>>> this problem doesn't happen to all of us. I'm sure there's a lot >>>>> of >>>>> IPSs >>>>> out there that have no filtering, and therefore that mandates that >>>>> there >>>>> is no bug. >>>>> >>>>> There is. Either face it or ignore it. I'll still play your games, >>>>> I'll >>>>> still host your games. I'll just listen in and hope for a >>>>> response. >>>>> I'll >>>>> hope others will concur with me, present their data, their >>>>> situations to >>>>> the board, and then let valve decide whether a decision must be >>>>> made. >>>>> >>>>> That is all. >>>>> >>>>> - Ian >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
