There is no whitelist in TF2 , there is file called whitelist.cfg what is pretty ignored by game, you have to create pure_server_whitelist.txt, and type rules here, but do you think every admin know it ? They just start server by using hldsupdatetool (any tutorial on internet ) and install Sourcemod + plugins , thats all what normal admin can do, why you think every admin know how block wallhacked textures? That pretty worked in cs source, blocking ignoreZ function on sv_consistency 1 servers mean skins still works, its not crc32 check but it block wallhack, and if you wanna crc32 check (skins not allowed) you will use sv_pure, why isnt this method used in TF2 and L4D too ?
Its looks pretty stupid if cheat developers give main credits to Valve for enabling ignoreZ.. 2009/5/6 AnAkIn . <[email protected]>: > Well, in TF2, you can modify the whitelist with sv_pure 1 and make it work. > Then you may be talking about allowing custom models but protecting the > wallhack with sv_consistency, which is the $ignoreZ function in .vmt files. > Yes, the $ignoreZ function no longer work on CSS for player models (but may > still work for weapons I guess), and work for everything on TF2. > > But in L4D, there is no way to make sv_pure 1 checks the .vpk files, so > people can make infected/zombies wallhack models easily. > Also, the sounds are not in .vpk files, so if someone wants to make sv_pure > 1 checks them, it'll take a long time for the user to enter the server > because it'll need a check on every file. > > And of course sv_pure 2 won't work because GCF files are not used. > > Seriously, this should be one of the main priority IMO. L4D is played > competitively since sometime now, and sv_pure is really needed here. > > 2009/5/6 w4rezz <[email protected]> > >> Welcome in club, same in TF2, 90% servers what use sv_pure 1 arent >> protected, becouse everybody can use material wallhack, only 2% with >> sv_pure 2 dont allow wallhack models. Thats becouse valve dont use >> sv_consistency for checking critical files, cvar just exist but it >> isnt checking, it only works in cs source, where you need injected >> cheats/programs to allow wallhack.. >> >> 2009/5/4 AnAkIn . <[email protected]>: >> > Still not fixed, sv_pure is still broken for L4D. People can use material >> > wallhacks and other custom things without any problems. >> > >> > 2008/12/5 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> > >> >> A Steam developer told me that it's sv_pure that has to be fixed, and >> Steam >> >> won't be updated to check if the .VPK files have been modified. >> >> >> >> >> >> So, the only things that would need to be done are: >> >> >> >> 1) Make check_crc work on .vpk files >> >> 2) Put all the materials/models/particles/sounds files in VPK files >> (those >> >> which are not currently). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/11/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> Ok, each time you got an extra file error, you have to restart the game >> to >> >>> be able to reconnect. >> >>> >> >>> But then there were still extra files problems...and I finally found a >> >>> working whitelist for the materials\ folder: >> >>> >> >>> materials\... allow_from_disk+check_crc >> >>> materials\correction\... allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\cubemaps\urban_cube01.hdr.vtf allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\blueblackflash.txt allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\models\materialslist.txt allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\particle\grayscalegradient.tga allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\particle\grayscalegradient.txt allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\sprites\tp_beam001.txt allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\vgui\fonts\buttons_32.vbf allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\debug\... allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\engine\... allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\vgui\... allow_from_disk >> >>> materials\temp\... allow_from_disk >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2008/11/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >>>> Sorry for posting so much e mail. >> >>>> >> >>>> I tried to do an exception list, but that didn't even work: >> >>>> >> >>>> Pure server: client has loaded extra file >> >>>> [GAME]\materials/correction\airport_main.raw. File must be removed to >> play >> >>>> on this server >> >>>> >> >>>> Here is my whitelist: >> >>>> >> >>>> materials\... allow_from_disk+check_crc >> >>>> materials\correction\... allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\blueblackflash.txt allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\models\materialslist.txt allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\particle\grayscalegradient.tga allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\particle\grayscalegradient.txt allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\sprites\tp_beam001.txt allow_from_disk >> >>>> materials\vgui\fonts\buttons_32.vbf allow_from_disk >> >>>> >> >>>> If anyone could help... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2008/11/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> No, what I said above don't even work: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> materials\... allow_from_disk+check_crc >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Now everybody get disconnected with this error: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> disconnect pure server : client has leaded extra file >> >>>>> [game]/materials/correction/zombieintro.raw. files must be removed to >> play >> >>>>> on the server >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So I guess I'll have to do like an exception list with >> >>>>> "allow_from_disk"... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2008/11/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Even better: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9725/l4dhospital01apartment0ns1.jpg >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If it's outside of the .vpk, I can fix this with >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> materials\... allow_from_disk+check_crc >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> But if this is done inside of the .vpk, nothing can be done to >> prevent >> >>>>>> it. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> What would need to be done is: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 1) Make Steam check if .vpk files have not been modified each time >> you >> >>>>>> run the game, like it does for .GCF files >> >>>>>> 2) Make the game "mount?" the .vpk files, so an other program can't >> >>>>>> modify them after you launched the game. >> >>>>>> 3) Make sv_pure 2 loads all content from .vpk files (fix from_steam >> to >> >>>>>> load content from .vpk files) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> and less important: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 4) Change the sound files to be in the .vpk files instead of game >> >>>>>> folders >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If sv_pure is not fixed, then there'll be lot of "easy cheating" in >> >>>>>> leagues...:/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2008/11/25 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> A friend tried to modify an infected's skin, and I did this on my >> >>>>>>> server: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> materials\models\infected\... allow_from_disk+check_crc >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> then he got kicked with: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Disconnect: Pure server: client has loaded extra file >> >>>>>>> [GAME]\materials/models\infected\boomer\boomer.vmt. File must be >> removed to >> >>>>>>> play on this server.. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> but if I make it check all directories, it takes longer to join the >> >>>>>>> server :/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 2008/11/25 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Also, some people already started to make red colored skins with >> that >> >>>>>>>> technique :/ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> http://www.imagecrate.de/upload/81108_l4d_hospital01_apartment0003.jpg >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> 2008/11/25 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Someone already found how to get around of the .vpk files, so you >> can >> >>>>>>>>> delete files from them and load them from your game directory. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?p=12563767#post12563767 >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> And there's nothing we can do to block that :/ >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jeff Sugar <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> There already is. It's on l4dmods, and likely elsewhere as well >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:31 AM, AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > It seems that the .vpk files could be modifiable, someone will >> >>>>>>>>>> probably >> >>>>>>>>>> > make >> >>>>>>>>>> > a program for that, so it would be good that Steam check if >> the >> >>>>>>>>>> .vpk files >> >>>>>>>>>> > are the originals ones when you launch the game, like it does >> >>>>>>>>>> with .gcf . >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > 2008/11/22 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > For the .vpk files, if you try to modify one of the files in >> it >> >>>>>>>>>> (like a >> >>>>>>>>>> > > model/material) and put it in your L4D folders, the game >> will >> >>>>>>>>>> just ignore >> >>>>>>>>>> > > it, it always load everything from the .vpk files. >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > 2008/11/22 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > I didn't try (I don't want to empty my servers atm), but I >> know >> >>>>>>>>>> that it >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> shouldn't give me this error, but then this doesn't solve >> the >> >>>>>>>>>> problem >> >>>>>>>>>> > that >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> sv_pure doesn't work at all like it should. >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 2008/11/22 David Parker <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Just out of curiosity, does it still give that error if you >> >>>>>>>>>> also set >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> sv_pure_kick_clients to zero? >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> - Dave >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> From: "AnAkIn ." <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:47 am >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D - Sv_pure is broken >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list < >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> [email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > Since L4D doesn't use GCF files, sv_pure no longer >> works: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > As in other source games, I tried using this: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > materials\... from_steam >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > models\... from_steam >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > sound\... from_steam >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > Most of the materials and models are in the .vpk files, >> I >> >>>>>>>>>> didn't >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > test yet to >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > modify one of them to see if it works, I'll test later, >> but >> >>>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > did with a >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > sound file: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > All of the sounds are just in your sound/ folder, so if >> you >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > modify a sound >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > file, sv_pure won't check for it because it checks the >> GCF >> >>>>>>>>>> (but >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > L4D doesn't >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > use GCF) or maybe .VPK (not sure if VALVe made it check >> >>>>>>>>>> .VPK >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > files, I'll >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > check later). >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > So I tried using allow_from_disk+check_crc, but that >> >>>>>>>>>> doesn't >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > work either, >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > everybody get kicked from my servers with this error: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > [L4DUI] GenericConfirmation::SetMessageText : >> Disconnect: >> >>>>>>>>>> Pure >> >>>>>>>>>> > server: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > client has loaded extra file >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> [GAME]\sound\ambient\ambience\1b_rooftoptrain_st_loop.wav. >> >>>>>>>>>> File >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > must be >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > removed to play on this server.. >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > Thanks. >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > AnAKIn >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> >>>>>>>>>> list >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > archives, please visit: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> list >> >>>>>>>>>> archives, >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> please visit: >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>>>>>>> archives, >> >>>>>>>>>> > please visit: >> >>>>>>>>>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
