Who is "we all?" I wasn't aware of any public beta that we could have 
tested.

If there was such a thing, I will eat my hat with only two condiments.

Regards,
--
David Anderson
http://www.bailopan.net/

On 8/14/09 12:04 AM, Richard Eid wrote:
> We've all known about the TF2 beta for a couple of weeks now.  And for the
> past few days, we knew the update was imminent.  Going forward, we knew that
> there were going to be some pretty huge changes to the game.  Small updates
> break a lot of things, large updates break even more.
>
> Remember the Counter-Strike 1.6 beta that went on for a month or so, then
> when it went live AMXModX, which also runs on many, many Counter-Strike
> servers, broke?  And with that update, the beta was 100% public(for a month)
> and AMXModX *still* wasn't ready.
>
> With any update, we can expect a number of things to break, even the tools
> that most would probably consider essential.  This is a fact of life.  I
> hope some day we can all finally accept that.
>
> Also,
>
> https://bugs.alliedmods.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3948
>
>                                                      -Richard Eid
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, blissend<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> Did they hire someone's nephew whom is an ogrish of man so they're too
>> afraid to fire... he just so happens to be responsible for
>> testing/releases?... No offense.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Bruce Potter<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, I just reran the updatetool (CentOS) and got a TON more content.
>>> With SM disabled I was able to get my servers started with no core
>>> dumps.
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Keeper wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valve has always said they are not responsible for keeping us in the
>>>> loop.
>>>> We have nicely asked for an update so we can get some things
>>>> reliably fixed
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Keeper
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DontWannaName! [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:55 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] 1. Re: Linux Crashes - Team Fortress 2/Day
>>>> of
>>>> Defeat: Source Update Released (MoggieX)
>>>>
>>>> They did test the update on servers, they just didnt test SM with it
>>>> or warn
>>>> the development team that there would need to be major changes.
>>>>
>>>>
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