The TF2 beta was for league players to make sure their changes to classes and the general game would keep everything even. Unfortunately, they didnt consider letting SM in on the fun.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:40 AM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think Valve sees any of these plugins and mods trivial enough to > give out the updates in advance or any information about them. Servers > run "fine" without them too. If you would be paying customer, things > would be different. > > -ics > > Stefan Popp kirjoitti: > > Full ACK Richard! > > > > We, from Mani Admin Plugin sitting around since over 12 hours know, to > > get the plugin back working. > > At least its just a hobby, but we got a big community which sitting > > around and waiting for a fix from us. > > I got no problems with updates by Valve, but the should care about > > people likes us. Where is the problem, > > to make a notice about upcoming changes for the SDK or anythin else? > > > > Maybe, its not your time that get lost, I understand this, but why did > > Valve dont care about such active supporters > > like the SourceMod, MetaMod or Mani Team and each others who contribute > > to the community? > > > > > > - Stefan Popp / Mani Admin Plugin Developer Team > > > > Richard Eid schrieb: > > > >> The Counter-Strike beta was public. The TF2 beta was not. But there > was/is > >> a TF2 beta. I don't know if that's ended with the release of this > update or > >> not. > >> > >> No matter, I don't think I speak only for myself when I say that I > >> appreciate the work that everyone does to ensure a fun gaming > environment, > >> but the point I was trying to make is that this is a given that things > >> break. People work hard to fix what is broken and everyone lives > happily > >> ever after. Or until the next update. Whichever comes first. > >> > >> -Richard Eid > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:10 AM, David Anderson <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Who is "we all?" I wasn't aware of any public beta that we could have > >>> tested. > >>> > >>> If there was such a thing, I will eat my hat with only two condiments. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> -- > >>> David Anderson > >>> http://www.bailopan.net/ > >>> > >>> On 8/14/09 12:04 AM, Richard Eid wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> We've all known about the TF2 beta for a couple of weeks now. And for > >>>> > >>>> > >>> the > >>> > >>> > >>>> past few days, we knew the update was imminent. Going forward, we > knew > >>>> > >>>> > >>> that > >>> > >>> > >>>> there were going to be some pretty huge changes to the game. Small > >>>> > >>>> > >>> updates > >>> > >>> > >>>> break a lot of things, large updates break even more. > >>>> > >>>> Remember the Counter-Strike 1.6 beta that went on for a month or so, > then > >>>> when it went live AMXModX, which also runs on many, many > Counter-Strike > >>>> servers, broke? And with that update, the beta was 100% public(for a > >>>> > >>>> > >>> month) > >>> > >>> > >>>> and AMXModX *still* wasn't ready. > >>>> > >>>> With any update, we can expect a number of things to break, even the > >>>> > >>>> > >>> tools > >>> > >>> > >>>> that most would probably consider essential. This is a fact of life. > I > >>>> hope some day we can all finally accept that. > >>>> > >>>> Also, > >>>> > >>>> https://bugs.alliedmods.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3948 > >>>> > >>>> -Richard Eid > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, blissend<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Did they hire someone's nephew whom is an ogrish of man so they're > too > >>>>> afraid to fire... he just so happens to be responsible for > >>>>> testing/releases?... No offense. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Bruce Potter<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> FYI, I just reran the updatetool (CentOS) and got a TON more > content. > >>>>>> With SM disabled I was able to get my servers started with no core > >>>>>> dumps. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bruce > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Keeper wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Valve has always said they are not responsible for keeping us in > the > >>>>>>> loop. > >>>>>>> We have nicely asked for an update so we can get some things > >>>>>>> reliably fixed > >>>>>>> :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Keeper > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: DontWannaName! [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:55 PM > >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] 1. Re: Linux Crashes - Team Fortress > 2/Day > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>> Defeat: Source Update Released (MoggieX) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> They did test the update on servers, they just didnt test SM with > it > >>>>>>> or warn > >>>>>>> the development team that there would need to be major changes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
