Atleast the srcds updates are being fixed faster then episode 3 is being developed.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>wrote: > If you don't like how things are being done - the bugs that are > showing up, the frequency of the updates, or whatever it is you are > crying about this week - then turn your server off. srcds didn't cost > you money to download, and you know that you don't need the pain in > the ass that is running the server. I know I sure don't! > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Tyler Schwend <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That's all well and good, but let's not direct our ire at the > programmers. > > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Saul Rennison <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Nobody demanded anything, the admins here just point out that bugs that > >> plague their servers haven't been fixed in months. If all the admins who > are > >> sick of the server bugs took down their servers, then the remaining > servers > >> would be constantly full. That's a given. > >> > >> And they need more programmers if they can't keep up with their bug > list. > >> They have absolute masses of money from Steam, so 5 more programmers on > >> their payroll wouldn't make them bankrupt. > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> *Saul Rennison* > >> > >> > >> On 30 July 2011 21:34, Tyler Schwend <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> [New thread to keep the update thread relevant] > >>> > >>> While a game is nothing without servers, server admins are a dime a > >>> dozen. If everyone on this list shut their servers down, there would > >>> still be Valve servers, and there would still be the giant number of > >>> other hosted servers. We obviously have a small role in the success of > >>> TF2 and its new model, but this attitude that the Valve devs work for > >>> you, and you can somehow force them into working overtime with a > >>> crappy attitude is crap. You're not their manager, you can't posture > >>> and intimidate them into magically fixing this stuff. They have > >>> deadlines at work just like you guys do, they're being driven to add > >>> features at the same pace you are at work, while trying to keep pace > >>> with an ever-increasingly-complex list of bugs and the way they > >>> interact with each other. Provide server info, crash reports, etc, > >>> that is useful. This spouting off about how YOU think they're not > >>> doing a good job and you demand some kind of immediate resolution, > >>> this sense of entitlement... it's not helpful for anyones' attitude or > >>> productivity. It's probably why they're never active in conversation > >>> here. Go outside. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Saul Rennison < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > A games company with no supporting server admins is a games company > with > >>> > customers with jack shit to play online. > >>> > > >>> > How the hell can you say that Valve owe them nothing? Server admins > pay > >>> > monthly for dedicated servers with their *own money* to play a game > they > >>> > love, I personally think they're brilliant. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Kind regards, > >>> > *Saul Rennison* > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 30 July 2011 20:50, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Actually Valve owes its customers everything. Now I am not slamming > >>> Valve > >>> >> at all. I have bought multiple copies of damn near everything they > have > >>> >> made. But the fact is they wouldn't be anything without us. They > >>> wouldn't be > >>> >> the giant they are without the modders, the community, the server > ops, > >>> the > >>> >> players, all of us. It is a business and without customers it is > just > >>> some > >>> >> guys sitting around. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] > >>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:45 AM > >>> >> > >>> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released > >>> >> > >>> >> Cool it with the atitude. Valve owes you nothing. Go get some sun. > >>> >> > >>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: "Bajdechi \"Nightbox\" Alexandru" < > [email protected]> > >>> >> Sender: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com< > >>> [email protected]> > >>> >> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:24:35 > >>> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list<hlds_linux@list. > ** > >>> >> valvesoftware.com <[email protected]>> > >>> >> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>> >> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.com < > [email protected] > >>> >> > >>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released > >>> >> > >>> >> My server just crashed right after the map changed. I'm already > losing > >>> >> patience, What the hell does it takes so long for a fix ? It's more > than > >>> a > >>> >> week already. > >>> >> > >>> >> 2011/7/30 Jesse Porter <[email protected]> > >>> >> > >>> >> And from (I think!) 2Fort: > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds2 > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds2 > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds > >>> >>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on > >>> >>> rotating_sky_clouds2 > >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> >>> please visit: > >>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> >> please visit: > >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> >> please visit: > >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>> >> > >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> >> please visit: > >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>> >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
