At least valve cares.
Look at Call of Duty, look at Battefiled. Every year a new game, 1-2
updates and the game is left alone, exclusiv servers, no linux files and
so on.
If you complain think how worse things could be ;)
Am 30.07.2011 23:34, schrieb James Puckett:
Atleast the srcds updates are being fixed faster then episode 3 is being
developed.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, msleeper<[email protected]>wrote:
If you don't like how things are being done - the bugs that are
showing up, the frequency of the updates, or whatever it is you are
crying about this week - then turn your server off. srcds didn't cost
you money to download, and you know that you don't need the pain in
the ass that is running the server. I know I sure don't!
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Tyler Schwend<[email protected]>
wrote:
That's all well and good, but let's not direct our ire at the
programmers.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Saul Rennison<[email protected]>
wrote:
Nobody demanded anything, the admins here just point out that bugs that
plague their servers haven't been fixed in months. If all the admins who
are
sick of the server bugs took down their servers, then the remaining
servers
would be constantly full. That's a given.
And they need more programmers if they can't keep up with their bug
list.
They have absolute masses of money from Steam, so 5 more programmers on
their payroll wouldn't make them bankrupt.
Kind regards,
*Saul Rennison*
On 30 July 2011 21:34, Tyler Schwend<[email protected]> wrote:
[New thread to keep the update thread relevant]
While a game is nothing without servers, server admins are a dime a
dozen. If everyone on this list shut their servers down, there would
still be Valve servers, and there would still be the giant number of
other hosted servers. We obviously have a small role in the success of
TF2 and its new model, but this attitude that the Valve devs work for
you, and you can somehow force them into working overtime with a
crappy attitude is crap. You're not their manager, you can't posture
and intimidate them into magically fixing this stuff. They have
deadlines at work just like you guys do, they're being driven to add
features at the same pace you are at work, while trying to keep pace
with an ever-increasingly-complex list of bugs and the way they
interact with each other. Provide server info, crash reports, etc,
that is useful. This spouting off about how YOU think they're not
doing a good job and you demand some kind of immediate resolution,
this sense of entitlement... it's not helpful for anyones' attitude or
productivity. It's probably why they're never active in conversation
here. Go outside.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Saul Rennison<
[email protected]>
wrote:
A games company with no supporting server admins is a games company
with
customers with jack shit to play online.
How the hell can you say that Valve owe them nothing? Server admins
pay
monthly for dedicated servers with their *own money* to play a game
they
love, I personally think they're brilliant.
Kind regards,
*Saul Rennison*
On 30 July 2011 20:50, Brian<[email protected]> wrote:
Actually Valve owes its customers everything. Now I am not slamming
Valve
at all. I have bought multiple copies of damn near everything they
have
made. But the fact is they wouldn't be anything without us. They
wouldn't be
the giant they are without the modders, the community, the server
ops,
the
players, all of us. It is a business and without customers it is
just
some
guys sitting around.
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
Cool it with the atitude. Valve owes you nothing. Go get some sun.
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
My server just crashed right after the map changed. I'm already
losing
patience, What the hell does it takes so long for a fix ? It's more
than
a
week already.
2011/7/30 Jesse Porter<[email protected]>
And from (I think!) 2Fort:
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds2
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds2
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds
Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on
rotating_sky_clouds2
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