If you are making any reference to me then I feel to make some clarification.
First of all I'm not making any profit for hosting servers. I'm building a community to develop the game for my country, and I'm doing this for 2 years already. Valve, by breaking their stuff is nor my interest, neither theirs. But you have to agree that by not proving a faster fix Valve annoys everyone. Silence is not a solution, and as a matter of fact I did send to valve crash logs. Sent from my HTC Sensation. În data de 30.07.2011 23:35, "Tyler Schwend" <[email protected]> a scris: > [New thread to keep the update thread relevant] > > While a game is nothing without servers, server admins are a dime a > dozen. If everyone on this list shut their servers down, there would > still be Valve servers, and there would still be the giant number of > other hosted servers. We obviously have a small role in the success of > TF2 and its new model, but this attitude that the Valve devs work for > you, and you can somehow force them into working overtime with a > crappy attitude is crap. You're not their manager, you can't posture > and intimidate them into magically fixing this stuff. They have > deadlines at work just like you guys do, they're being driven to add > features at the same pace you are at work, while trying to keep pace > with an ever-increasingly-complex list of bugs and the way they > interact with each other. Provide server info, crash reports, etc, > that is useful. This spouting off about how YOU think they're not > doing a good job and you demand some kind of immediate resolution, > this sense of entitlement... it's not helpful for anyones' attitude or > productivity. It's probably why they're never active in conversation > here. Go outside. > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Saul Rennison <[email protected]> wrote: >> A games company with no supporting server admins is a games company with >> customers with jack shit to play online. >> >> How the hell can you say that Valve owe them nothing? Server admins pay >> monthly for dedicated servers with their *own money* to play a game they >> love, I personally think they're brilliant. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> *Saul Rennison* >> >> >> On 30 July 2011 20:50, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Actually Valve owes its customers everything. Now I am not slamming Valve >>> at all. I have bought multiple copies of damn near everything they have >>> made. But the fact is they wouldn't be anything without us. They wouldn't be >>> the giant they are without the modders, the community, the server ops, the >>> players, all of us. It is a business and without customers it is just some >>> guys sitting around. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] >>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:45 AM >>> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released >>> >>> Cool it with the atitude. Valve owes you nothing. Go get some sun. >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Bajdechi \"Nightbox\" Alexandru" <[email protected]> >>> Sender: hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com< [email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:24:35 >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list<hlds_linux@list.** >>> valvesoftware.com <[email protected]>> >>> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>> <hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.com <[email protected] >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released >>> >>> My server just crashed right after the map changed. I'm already losing >>> patience, What the hell does it takes so long for a fix ? It's more than a >>> week already. >>> >>> 2011/7/30 Jesse Porter <[email protected]> >>> >>> And from (I think!) 2Fort: >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds2 >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds2 >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**006836,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds >>>> Bad SetLocalAngles(0.000000,3600.**002686,0.000000) on >>>> rotating_sky_clouds2 >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
