I'm all for kicking malicious server owners in the butt (and that plugin is
disgusting) but this MOTD limit is too harsh and very short sighted. There
are so many non-malicious applications for MOTDs and once again all server
operators have to suffer because of a few malicious idiots. This change is
not a good way to solve the problem.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Any type of HTML MOTD (which I am sure you use) will take up more resources
> than a blank page... Mr. "everyone should run off of donations or you
> shouldn't run servers and no one would ever want to view the rules or force
> unruly players to read the rules"
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:43 PM, DontWannaName! <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > You shouldn't be using a motd that lags users. That's common sense...
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 5
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The whole issue started from the Traffic to Cash plugin which was
> > spamming
> > > webpages every second which understandably causes lag.
> > >
> > > That is why I propose Valve use a rate limit instead. A reasonable rate
> > > limit would allow for legitimate use of the MOTD without the ability to
> > > cause lag. I posted the details earlier in the mailing list.
> Confirmation
> > > pop-ups is not a good solution. Imagine typing !rules or !bp or !radio
> > and
> > > then having to click another button every time you type.
> > >
> > > The current solution makes legitimate servers lag players more because
> > now
> > > you can't change the MOTD to a blank page after it is closed.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Erik-jan Riemers <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sounds like the "auto redirect" feature from back in the days, this
> one
> > >> also got nerfed.
> > >> BUT, you can still do that but it ASKS the client if he/she wants to
> > >> connect to it.
> > >>
> > >> So just simply put it back on somehow and ask the player "Do you want
> to
> > >> see this motd the server is offering to you?" That way you can still
> > have
> > >> a rules and a radio plugin too.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [email protected]
> > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dan
> > >> Sent: donderdag 4 april 2013 6:17
> > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
> > >>
> > >> On 04/04/2013 00:17, Essay Tew Phaun wrote:
> > >>>  What's the report a server feature for, anyway?
> > >>
> > >> You can't expect Valve be tough on others because you weren't willing
> to
> > >> accept them being tough with you.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps it's much easier to remove the feature and then you can't use
> it
> > >> or abuse it. You don't really expect them to trust anyone's judgement
> or
> > >> take it on face value what the spirit of rules are do you?
> > >>
> > >> Most of all, you can't abuse it and then claim that it's not abuse
> > either
> > >> because the game lets you do it or because there isn't a 150 page bill
> > of
> > >> rights written by lawyers and signed in blood explicitly going over
> > every
> > >> permitted or prohibited thing that one or more of you might dream up
> > next
> > >> to try and get a few bucks by annoying your players in the hope
> they'll
> > >> pay for you to stop annoying you.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dan
> > >>
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