Has anyone here actually noticed that having MOTD rules actually
increased the number of rules abiding players? Having the rules pages
(in my exp) has only been used for rule disputes, which typically are
won by the one of the server admins, regardless of the rules.
On 4/4/2013 12:45 AM, Valentin G. wrote:
I'm all for kicking malicious server owners in the butt (and that plugin is
disgusting) but this MOTD limit is too harsh and very short sighted. There
are so many non-malicious applications for MOTDs and once again all server
operators have to suffer because of a few malicious idiots. This change is
not a good way to solve the problem.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com>wrote:
Any type of HTML MOTD (which I am sure you use) will take up more resources
than a blank page... Mr. "everyone should run off of donations or you
shouldn't run servers and no one would ever want to view the rules or force
unruly players to read the rules"
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:43 PM, DontWannaName! <ad...@topnotchclan.com
wrote:
You shouldn't be using a motd that lags users. That's common sense...
Sent from my iPhone 5
On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The whole issue started from the Traffic to Cash plugin which was
spamming
webpages every second which understandably causes lag.
That is why I propose Valve use a rate limit instead. A reasonable rate
limit would allow for legitimate use of the MOTD without the ability to
cause lag. I posted the details earlier in the mailing list.
Confirmation
pop-ups is not a good solution. Imagine typing !rules or !bp or !radio
and
then having to click another button every time you type.
The current solution makes legitimate servers lag players more because
now
you can't change the MOTD to a blank page after it is closed.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Erik-jan Riemers <riem...@binkey.nl>
wrote:
Sounds like the "auto redirect" feature from back in the days, this
one
also got nerfed.
BUT, you can still do that but it ASKS the client if he/she wants to
connect to it.
So just simply put it back on somehow and ask the player "Do you want
to
see this motd the server is offering to you?" That way you can still
have
a rules and a radio plugin too.
-----Original Message-----
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of dan
Sent: donderdag 4 april 2013 6:17
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
On 04/04/2013 00:17, Essay Tew Phaun wrote:
What's the report a server feature for, anyway?
You can't expect Valve be tough on others because you weren't willing
to
accept them being tough with you.
Perhaps it's much easier to remove the feature and then you can't use
it
or abuse it. You don't really expect them to trust anyone's judgement
or
take it on face value what the spirit of rules are do you?
Most of all, you can't abuse it and then claim that it's not abuse
either
because the game lets you do it or because there isn't a 150 page bill
of
rights written by lawyers and signed in blood explicitly going over
every
permitted or prohibited thing that one or more of you might dream up
next
to try and get a few bucks by annoying your players in the hope
they'll
pay for you to stop annoying you.
--
Dan
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