> It's not as if your server is providing a once-in-a-lifetime experience,
and unless you're running some custom mods

I can't speak for everyone but not everyone running ads just throws up a
server with sourcemod and expects to have their server fees paid for them.

> Because of YOU PEOPLE wanting to play on MY SERVERS I now need to find
some way to pay for them, the nerve of you kids.

People don't keep servers up if they don't get filled. If they weren't
filled people wouldn't care about finding a way to pay for them.

If map makers and modelers are making hundreds of thousands a year from the
Steam store, why is it immoral for server owners to even make 1% of that?
They don't even have upkeep costs and they used to upload their work for
free to gamebanana.com. Now server owners don't even have the ability to
use custom items.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Gordon Reynolds <
[email protected]> wrote:

> It does feel like the people who run these ads or nag for donations resent
> their players. "Because of YOU PEOPLE wanting to play on MY SERVERS I now
> need to find some way to pay for them, the nerve of you kids. Because
> you're too stupid to type !ads and click on ads to help me out, I will now
> install a plugin that forces you to look at ads."
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Nerdboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's more the constant "they're too stupid to"/"spuf is too stupid to"
> > On Apr 4, 2013 2:15 PM, "Cameron Munroe" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah that was uncalled for nerdboy. Just because someone has ads
> doesn't
> > > mean they don't care about there players. You should know better.
> > >
> > > Nerdboy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Wow Frank you really don't think much of your patrons do you?
> > > >On Apr 4, 2013 2:02 PM, "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I enjoy running TF2 servers, I have a decent job to support them but
> > me
> > > >> putting some ads on them so you only view when you join (this is
> how I
> > > had
> > > >> them setup) then why should that shame on me for trying to at least
> > > recover
> > > >> the costs of running them. I'm not talking about a profit, I'm lucky
> > to
> > > >> break even every month. I can be trusted just fine to run well
> managed
> > > and
> > > >> fast servers for players to play on FREE, them viewing an ad one
> time
> > > when
> > > >> they join for a few seconds isn't going to hurt nobody and is no
> > > different
> > > >> than television companies do with the ads.  If you wish to have tags
> > in
> > > >> place then fine but tags shouldn't disqualify my servers from
> getting
> > > >> traffic be it browser or quickplay as someone else already put it
> most
> > > kids
> > > >> are too stupid to know how the server browser works so you have to
> > > depend
> > > >> on
> > > >> quickplay/match making to get traffic to your servers. You can't
> > expect
> > > to
> > > >> be able to advertise them on SPUF - you get instant banned for even
> > > typing
> > > >> out an IP# or name of servers so a lot of help Valve is in that
> > regard.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: [email protected]
> > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Gordon
> > > >> Reynolds
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:32 PM
> > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
> > > >>
> > > >> If people cannot be trusted to run a server for a free game without
> > > >> blasting
> > > >> users with ads then I hardly doubt they will play nice and put the
> > > proper
> > > >> tags in place informing people that they are about to blast you with
> > > ads.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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