I don't have bots on my server so they didn't get created by the server. And nav file didn't came with those custom maps.
On 29 April 2013 14:03, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected]> wrote: > Why generate them, if you already have them on your servers.... just copy > 'm there. > > Also, it has already been said that the nav files not always generate from > the map correctly cq match the original one that comes with the map. > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]> > >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list < > [email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 14:16 > >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve, can you remove clients required to > download nav files? > > > > > >You can use a plugin to modify those nav files but thats not the problem > >here. Hosting those nav files is also not a problem for me, I already host > >25 gigs of maps. I didn't upload nav files for them because I knew they > are > >no use to clients who are connecting unless they will launch listen server > >with bots and if they are missing the nav file in this case, their listen > >server will auto generate the nav file. > > > >This was fine before steampipe update as the client searches for .nav file > >and then looks for .nav.bz2 file, If non are found it moves on. After the > >steampipe update there is a pause of about few seconds when it's searching > >for nav file unlike before it was done quite fast. I cant generate nav > >files for all those 25 gigs of maps if you know what I'm trying to say. > > > >On 29 April 2013 06:04, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> But that autogenerated version never works flawlessly. It often fails > >> miserably since the autocreation really needs help. Bots need the nav in > >> order to work and in CSS the place names on the radar are read in the > nav > >> file also. > >> > >> I don't really get the commotion since nav files are generally only few > >> megs big. If you really don't want those to host, just don't put them > into > >> the fastdownloadurl but keep it on the server. > >> > >> -ics > >> > >> Nomaan Ahmad kirjoitti: > >> > >> When they launch listen server, the missing nav file will be auto > >>> generated. > >>> > >>> On 29 April 2013 02:28, Essay Tew Phaun <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> They weren't guaranteed to have the navs in the first place, for > >>>> unsupported maps. So they could just generate the nav for it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Saul Rennison < > [email protected] > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> What about if they want to host the map on a listen server? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>> Saul Rennison > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 29 April 2013 00:55, Essay Tew Phaun <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The option to turn it off would be nice at least. I haven't noticed > a > >>>>>> difference on the client end from using blank navs. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The nav files have extra data in certain games like CS:S (place > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> names) > >>>> > >>>>> so > >>>>> > >>>>>> the clients would need those files in order to display that data. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> TF2 might have something similar as well, previously nav files were > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> not > >>>> > >>>>> sent in TF2. It happened with some update. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Essay Tew Phaun < > [email protected] > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The clients don't need these nav files for the bots to function on > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>> > >>>>>> server. Some servers serve the nav files as empty from a fast > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> download > >>>>> > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> get around sending it. This is bad because now the client has a nav > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> file > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> that doesn't actually do anything if they chose to play locally. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> With all the recent optimizations and separating map downloads > from > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> other > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> file downloads + SteamPipe, this change makes sense. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> archives, > >>>>> > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** > >>>>>>>> hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> archives, > >>>> > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** > >>>>>>> hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware. > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware. > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware. > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> https://list.valvesoftware. > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
