Obviously technology is not going away - I enjoy the advances of our digital 
age.  But one thing that separates a live performance from a recording or 
robotic re-creation is the element of unpredictability - you don't know what 
will happen. It reminds me of something Hank Greenwald (ex-announcer for the 
San Francisco Giants baseball team) said: "Every day I go to the ballpark and I 
see something I've never seen before."

Hope you are all enjoying your summers.

B

Robert N. Ward
Principal Horn
San Francisco Symphony
[email protected]





On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> 
> It's existentialism time.
> 
> Imagine if you will a robotic orchestra which can copy every single nuance, 
> inflextion, etc. of a human orchestral performance. In other words, take 
> every action done by a human orchestra and program it into a robotic 
> orchestra so that everything is copied to the letter. What you'd end up with 
> is an exact copy of the human orchestra just as if the human orchestra was 
> recorded.
> 
> But wait, we already have something similar in terms of actual recordings!
> 
> If you go down to a major library you could easily find writings from people 
> 100 years ago who argued that recorded sound would eliminate all live 
> recordings. Yet, today, we still have many live performances and many 
> recordings from live performances. They haven't gone away.
> 
> You could also make the argument that playing electronic instruments removes 
> the human factor from making sound by that logic. 
> 
> No matter what, you're not going to get around the fact that people made the 
> robots. People programmed them. People are behind their actions. We are 
> telling them exactly what to do. They do not think. They are not self-aware. 
> They are not sentient. Does a story change simply because it is written down 
> and read later? Does a performance change because it was recorded at one time 
> and performed for others later on a digital recording? 
> 
> 
> You're not really removing the act of performance. You're just shifting it to 
> the person who has to control the machinery. You still have to have a human 
> to write the music for it or make the machines or program them. Times change. 
> Technology is exponentially growing. We will have to adapt to it. Even if all 
> orchestras tomorrow were suddenly replaced with machines we would still have 
> some demand for humans to perform music. 
> 
> I say let the technology grow. I'm not burdened by it nor am I frightened. 
> Humans are good at adapting.
> 
> -William
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]>
> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 11, 2010 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] About those brass playing robots...
> 
> 
> Have you ever heard about sampled sounds ? Write music with Finale or  
> 
> Sibelius,
> 
> use Garritan sound bank & listen. It sounds reasonable, even much  
> 
> better than
> 
> most Sunday-afternoon-orchestras or weekend orchestra, BUT -
> 
> it is missing the human factor of sound coloring completely.
> 
> 
> 
> I work with Finale since CODA issued this program.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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