William, this is the most idiotic contribution I ever read here on the list.
Do you really believe, a programmed performance executed by machines programmed by humans anyway result in a satisfying performance ? Only computer people could assume such nonsense. The feeling cannot be programmed, as it is different at every performance. This is the exciting factor of a live performance. Yes, I agree with you, that a robotic performance could arrive at perfection, but never comparable to a human performance. You seem to be a maniac of a computer perfection centralized view of the things, if I or others post to the list about the "human software" (our brain). Do you really believe, one could program robots in a way, they could produce the excitement of a performance under Carlos Kleiober, perhaps ? I would recommend, that you consult a psychatrist as soon as possible. Something must be very wrong with you. From school time (the Johannes Keppler Gymnasium in Linz, nearly 500 yerars existing) I remember our biologist saying: "Give me 5 billion years time, and I will create a human by myself !"- Haeretic ? I know a faster way. ################################################################################################################# Am 11.07.2010 um 18:43 schrieb [email protected]: > > It's existentialism time. > > Imagine if you will a robotic orchestra which can copy every single > nuance, inflextion, etc. of a human orchestral performance. In other > words, take every action done by a human orchestra and program it > into a robotic orchestra so that everything is copied to the letter. > What you'd end up with is an exact copy of the human orchestra just > as if the human orchestra was recorded. > > But wait, we already have something similar in terms of actual > recordings! > > If you go down to a major library you could easily find writings > from people 100 years ago who argued that recorded sound would > eliminate all live recordings. Yet, today, we still have many live > performances and many recordings from live performances. They > haven't gone away. > > You could also make the argument that playing electronic instruments > removes the human factor from making sound by that logic. > > No matter what, you're not going to get around the fact that people > made the robots. People programmed them. People are behind their > actions. We are telling them exactly what to do. They do not think. > They are not self-aware. They are not sentient. Does a story change > simply because it is written down and read later? Does a performance > change because it was recorded at one time and performed for others > later on a digital recording? > > > You're not really removing the act of performance. You're just > shifting it to the person who has to control the machinery. You > still have to have a human to write the music for it or make the > machines or program them. Times change. Technology is exponentially > growing. We will have to adapt to it. Even if all orchestras > tomorrow were suddenly replaced with machines we would still have > some demand for humans to perform music. > > I say let the technology grow. I'm not burdened by it nor am I > frightened. Humans are good at adapting. > > -William > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Jul 11, 2010 12:29 pm > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] About those brass playing robots... > > > Have you ever heard about sampled sounds ? Write music with Finale or > > Sibelius, > > use Garritan sound bank & listen. It sounds reasonable, even much > > better than > > most Sunday-afternoon-orchestras or weekend orchestra, BUT - > > it is missing the human factor of sound coloring completely. > > > > I work with Finale since CODA issued this program. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
