Hello friends,

why nobody has thought to tune the horn with an interval to the given oboe "a", 
let´s say
playing our "c" on 2nd space from top (concert f) in relation to the given a. 
If the 
concert "f" is played most relaxed & in piano dynamics it is fine in tune on 
most horns & 
on the F-side as well as on the Bb-side. If the horn is tuned using our written 
"e2"
(= first space from top) the horn will result quite sharp, relatively, as you 
tuned it
with a relatively flat natural pitch.

Tuning the horn using the second valve on the Bb-horn is insane as if you would
start driving with 2nd gear.

I remember a student audition, we hold sometimes to give a young unknown player 
(just one of them) a chance to participate on the real audition the following 
day,
sometimes resulting in a surprise - the present principal of my former section 
won his 
job this way when just 19 years of age. 

During such a selective pre-audition one young (lady) player tuned her horn to
the piano "a" by playing the same pitch with 2nd valve on the Bb-side, then 
realized being
sharp a bit & corrected the pitch by the right hand & began her presentation.

I thought I must go out to find & shoot her teacher.

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Am 22.04.2011 um 12:52 schrieb Jonathan West:

> On 22 April 2011 06:59, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I personally never understood tuning to the concert A unless you use the Bb
>> horn and 2nd finger (4th space on the treble clef). I've seen plenty of
>> people  'tune' to the first space E both open on the F horn and on the Bb
>> horn.
>> 
>> Then again, when I notice they don't touch their slides after they  'tune',
>> I just let it go.
>> 
>> Or you could do like the strings and play everything but the A.
>> 
>> 
> The fact is that once a horn has been adjusted so it is in tune, it takes
> either a pretty huge change in temperature or for the oboe to provide a
> significantly different A for there to be any need to adjust the tuning of
> the instrument.
> 
> I agree about tuning using 2nd valve Bb side to the 4th space E. The octave
> below is such a wide "slot" that you are likely to lip the note into tune
> quite unconsciously, and the harmonic on the open F side is significantly
> flat relative to equal temperament.
> 
> Regards
> Jonathan West
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