Hello Sandra,

Then i wonder, Why this 8th partial on the Bb-Horns is flat, very flat on most 
Performances of Strauss n.1. ??????  Tuning the Horn using any other pitch than 
an Open, is insane. When I Said E2,  i meint it on the f-Side, if i Said C2, i 
meant it on bb-Side. Clear !!!!

It is Not a matter for mathematicians, but for practical musicians/Horn Players 
with two Generation Experience. Punctum.

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 22.04.2011 um 09:02 schrieb Sandra Clark <[email protected]>:

> At the risk of winning another scathing rebuke from Hans, I thought I'd
> weigh in on the tuning issue.  
> 
> Hans states: " If the horn is tuned using our written "e2"
> (= first space from top) the horn will result quite sharp, relatively, as
> you tuned it
> with a relatively flat natural pitch."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music)
> 
> The link is to information about the harmonic series - that function of
> nature upon which we triumph or fail - and how each point on that harmonic
> series varies from the equal tempered A-440 to which we tune.  
> 
> Knowing well that the whole equal vs. just intonation topic is often a total
> minefield for wind players, I will none the less say an "e2" (First space
> from top) is an 8th partial - a VERY stable and in-tune partial relative to
> A-440.  If one carefully tunes their instrument to 8th partial notes on both
> the Bb (first...) and F sides (2nd) - one has the opportunity to play freely
> down the 'center' of the pitch.  
> 
> Of course, numerous notes must be played on less 'in-tune' partials (5th
> partials, 6th partials...as well as the ever popular 9th and 10th
> partials...).  As the diagram in the center of the linked article indicates,
> ONLY partials 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16 are stable and in tune relative to the
> A-440 to which we tune (or A-442 in San Francisco...or A-448 in Berlin...or
> whatever).  
> 
> A short word about just intonation:  A very smart mathematician I know
> recently said something to this effect:  "we play pitches and scales in
> equal temperament...but we play chords in just intonation".  I believe
> players can use the flatness and sharpness of certain partials to their
> benefit in placing their pitches in the proper position for the just tuning
> of various chords during performance.
> 
> Sandra
> Toledo Ohio
> 
> 
> 
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