Greets! Sorry to barge in. ...but what Mr.Phil says is really true in the case of new mappers.
Cheers:) Autre On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:08 PM, john whelan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we have to accept we need new mappers and we need them to be > motivated so mapping projects that do not seem important may not be so > motivating. The Statistics Canada project is interesting as in the longer > term I think we should see a pool of experienced mappers coming out of that > but it is a longer term project and its interesting to see a different > approach with more emphasis on data quality. We rarely discuss the needs > of our clients ie those who use the maps in the discussion group. > > Mapping one on one with new mappers you can train them fairly quickly but > it still takes twenty minutes or so. With a group I think you have to > accept you have them there for two/three hours, 50% will never map again, > and they want to start mapping now. What's the guy at the front talking > about OpenStreetMap and boring stuff for? Asking them to train for two > hours first and get a badge is a sort of non-starter. Ask me to go through > training for validation and I'm more likely to go off and play in Blender. > They are volunteers. Making the training available to them is a different > issue to making it mandatory. > > There is an issue of trust, locally the American Red Cross has hit the > headlines with their six permanent houses built in Haiti. Divide into the > money raised and its not pretty. There has been mention of the > Humanitarian Industry. There is a suggestion that the NGOs look upon > mapathons as a way of engaging the public hoping to gain donations from > them. > > I've long thought that many projects could have better documentation. Why > is this project important? who will use the data that we know about? This > is being addressed through the training for project managers. > > For a crisis certain projects will need a higher level of expertise. I've > worked on critical high priority projects where tiles have been marked done > with only 25% of the mapping done. Other tiles had been "validated" but > still left much to be desired, and my standard of validation isn't that > high. > > Validating and giving feedback is useful. Quite a few of the new mappers > I've given feedback to are now solid mappers but quick feedback is critical > and when you get twenty or more mappers mapping in a mapathon you can't > give each the attention you'd like. > > By the way it doesn't seem to be just HOT mappers who leave much to be > desired. I've been looking at parts of Africa and there are mappers there > who have done a fair amount of mapping more than 500 buildings for example > but still don't tag their ways and their userid does not show up in HOT. > > I'll leave you the thoughts but no real solutions. > > Cheerio John > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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