I'm not really interested to engage in old nonsense and distractions like this.
Does nothing to help anyone.
Point still is, an additional tasking manager for this response is unnecessary
On Saturday, October 15, 2016, 9:25 AM, Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Mikel Maron mikel.maron at gmail.com wrote on Sat Oct 15 12:03:00 UTC 2016 >
Having two tasking managers for the same response area is of course going to
> There's no need at all to create jobs for Haiti on another tasking manager.
> Simply, communicat> the needs for mapping, including AOI, need, etc, to the
> HOT activation team and it will be prioritized and set up.
Nicolas Chavent lead in January 2010 the OpenStreetMap Humanitarian Responses
in Haiti, making a few trips in Haiti with other GIS from the not yet
incorporated NGO called HOT. These first major Activtion add quite a great
success and showed the capacity of NGO's to collaborate with UN agencies and
>From 2012, we started a serie of major Activations. I lead Activations for DR
>Congo, Mali, Haiyan Philippines, West Africa Ebola, Vanuatu and the Nepal
>earthquake last year. Severin also lead a serie of Activations for forgotten
>conflicts such as Central Africa an South Sudan. This brought in a lot of
>innovations, more and more confidence for humanitarian NGO's to work with
But badly at the same time there are conflicts inside HOT about orientations
and some people that do not respect enough volunteers. New rules to control the
Tasking manager, censorship of the HOT list, new rules that exclude the 'Bad
frenchies' from the Activation lead, this is not the best when you start an
Activation like this one for Haiti.
Nicolas, Severin, Jean-Guilhem, Fred and myself all worked in Haiti to develop
the OSM community. Fred Moine worked two years for the OIM in Port-au-Prince
and continued collaboration with haitians to develop an Imagery acquisition
project with Drones. He did provide 3D imagery for various location at risk
such as Riviere Grise and Canaan.
You and your friends Mikel have choose to not support Fred initiatives but to
support later the development of Uviator.
In parrallel to HOT our group of quite experienced leaders of OS Responses are
working to support a team of OSM responders in Port-au-Prince. Fred Moine,
Xavier Tardieu and Pressler Jean are working closely with the Haiti Civil
Security. We did work to enhance the list of Schools and hospitals in the South
West peninsula of Haiti. The OSM african contributors from Bouake organize Task
Manager jobs to focus on the most affected areas. Our collegues in
Port-au-Prince also had the opportunity last week to take an helico while the
road was closed and take the first drone images of Jeremy to asssess the
situation with the Haiti Civil Security. They will have new missions next week
to cover more areas.
There are tensions and hunger in these towns where more then 80% of houses are
damaged or destructed. The drones offer a great possibility to help to assess
the damages and the Civil Security wants to try this option.
As Jean-Guilhem was saying yesterday (please stop to censor his emails) we will
organise post-disaster tasks to evaluate damages.
Dale was criticizing before such projects. As I told him after Haiyan, both
OSM, Copernicus and others did evaluations using very bad aerial imagery due to
bad atmospheric conditions. There were surely limits to such evaluations.
Imagery from Drone offer quite better quality. Plus we have to adapt to the
reality and needs of each Activation.
In the best world we would work all together with respect and continue to
progress to respond better and better to international humanitarian responses.
We have great experience with Activations and want to continue helping the
international community and NGO's in such difficult situations. We need to
concentrate in the western part of the South-west peninsula where NGO's did not
deliver yet water and food, where teams of doctors circulate rapidly in some
points to take care only of more wounded persons. Cholera is spreading and
there is a high risk of epidemy.
Mikel, Dale and other board members you decided to take different directions.
If you are ready to work with respect, openess with us, to let the experienced
volunteers continue to lead Activations and be on the DHN coordination room
with our partners, tell us.
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