Hi Emmor, The document is really nice, thanks for sharing. IMHO we really need clear guides like this,
Have put your document here, and added some comments. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cv3oic5ujJ8_VxqyXQ5xCM3mYhlKTghosJwGH1dkKsc Thanks, Bjoern On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 16:35, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >There was a suggestion that the editing software could have regional tag > exclusions. An example would be highway=living_street, a legally defined > type road that is not found in Africa. > > There are 2,921 highways currently labelled living_street in Angola. I > suspect the problem is people do not read the documentation but copy the > tags of another mapper and sometimes these are not as accurate as one might > like. > > Cheerio John > > On 29 July 2017 at 10:48, Vao Matua <vaoma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have shared my presentation from SOTM Africa here: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_2QVFnCIYvpQllEWnR2bWhTVnM >> >> There are quite a few photographs of different types of roads in Africa >> along with the aerial view. >> >> At the workshop in Kampala there was a good deal of discussion and >> frustration expressed regarding inconsistencies in descriptions and usage. >> There was not a consensus that additional tags were needed, however, there >> was general agreement that the Africa Highway Tagging Guide needed some >> clarification. >> There was a suggestion that the editing software could have regional tag >> exclusions. An example would be highway=living_street, a legally defined >> type road that is not found in Africa. >> >> I like the guidance Bjoern gave us below and the nice presentation. My >> only suggestion would be that metal roofs could be one factor in >> determining path/residential/unclassified. I have seen many remote villages >> only accessible by path that have some metal roofs. I think the same could >> be true in Nepal? >> >> Here is a draft 1-page document for use in mapathons >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s0QB-B1MKqsRs51jyDsCuldEXsJ_xK17k0-kRyKmxoo >> <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_2QVFnCIYvpVW1xdHZ1RFF0dms> >> The order of tag listing is "upside down" emphasizing the most common >> routes first. highway=service should probably be added and primary could >> be dropped. >> >> Let's continue this conversation. >> >> Regards, >> >> Emmor >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I think it would be really good to have a simple set of instructions for >>> people at mapathons. Sure, these can always be amended as per instructions, >>> but it would be nice to have a default set. >>> >>> In our "MM Intro" presentation, we came up with this slide >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xFDiMaWRj1RBlXzVYlKp06yE2Ja9Q5rmD9-bPDp1TWo/edit#slide=id.g2326c0c777_5_390 >>> where we try to give practical guidance, and try to delineate the >>> features (i.e. give "negatives" rather than just the definition). >>> >>> The slide says: >>> >>> - Can it be passed by a vehicle? → unclassified (or better) / >>> residential / track (not path) >>> - Does it connect areas where people live (running within and >>> through villages)? → Unclassified or better (not residential / not track) >>> - Does the road only run within a village or residential areas (not >>> a through-road) → residential >>> - Does the road only run to fields (agric. use)? → track >>> - Is it not passable by car (4x4)? → path >>> - Note: A metal roof arrives by vehicle → roads to houses with metal >>> roofs are unclassified or residential (not path). >>> >>> (The set is aimed at cases where M/trunk/1/2/3iary is already in >>> existence, as is often the case.) >>> >>> I do think that a set like this will help new mappers with decision >>> making. >>> >>> What do people think? I've copied it here >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Highway_Tag_Africa#Mailing_list >>> in case people want to edit. >>> >>> Bjoern >>> >>> On 29 July 2017 at 12:09, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Looking at the wiki changes it looks like mainly clarifications I tend >>>> to not use tags higher than tertiary as I think they are best left to local >>>> knowledge or someone with more specialised knowledge. >>>> >>>> Many Thanks >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On 28 July 2017 at 23:25, Vao Matua <vaoma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I led the discussion at the Highway Tagging workshop on the last day >>>>> of SOTM Africa. >>>>> There was quite a bit of discussion and agreement that the existing >>>>> tagging can be frustrating, however, we did not generate any new proposals >>>>> for additional tags. >>>>> We did agree on some changes to the Africa Highway Tagging Guide >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa> which has >>>>> now been updated to reflect not only Functional Class but also >>>>> Construction >>>>> class and width. >>>>> I am in the process of preparing a one page reference guide for use in >>>>> carto-parties and mapathons and by new mappers. >>>>> >>>>> General changes or clarifications: >>>>> A residential road serves people who live adjacent to it. >>>>> An unclassified road connects settlements and collects traffic from >>>>> residential roads, tracks, and paths >>>>> A track allows people to access agriculture areas, but not connect to >>>>> a settlement >>>>> A path can function like an unclassified highway, but is restricted to >>>>> foot traffic or 2 wheeled vehicles >>>>> Highway = tertiary or secondary may be paved, but not by default. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if you have questions or suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Emmor >>>>> (Palolo) >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:38 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I seem to recall some one posting recently that following discussion >>>>>> at the SOTM Africa in Uganda 2017 some changes had been made to the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could some one highlight these. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks John >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> HOT mailing list >>>>>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> HOT mailing list >>>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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