I printed six different images this weekend in an attempt to
understand my printing problems better. I produced a variety of print
sizes and all image/margin sizes in prints were as expected. The only
thing I did different was allow extra sizes for the default paper
margins (unprintable areas of the paper). Although this doesn't
explain some of the problems I observed previously (e.g. the second
example I provided), I suspect that not allowing for the default paper
margins previously somehow confused my computer/printer and it simply
got so screwed-up that it failed to perform reasonably. 

At any rate, it seems to be printing OK now. I think that allowing for
default margins in the future will help keep things operating smoothly. 

Thanks a lot for all of the help and support. I appreciate it. 


--- In [email protected], "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi
> I'm new to the group, and I just started using the Z3100. I wonder
if the problem is that 
> you're not allowing extra canvas for the default margins, unless
you're printing 
> borderless. If your image is 20x24, including your border, then your
custom paper size 
> has to have an additional .2" on the top and each side, and .67" on
the bottom. So you'll 
> need a custom paper size of 20.4"x24.87". What I do is add the
margins in the printer 
> driver. If my image is 20"x24", and I want 2" margins, then I create
a custom paper size 
> of 24"x28" with 2" margins.
> 
> Peter
> 
> --- In [email protected], "rcoolbreeze2000"
<lgrrrb@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Teddy, 
> > 
> > Yes, I specify image size and canvas size in Photoshop. 
> > 
> > In PS, I set the image size, say to 8x10. I recheck the image size and
> > it is indeed 8x10. 
> > 
> > In PS, I then set the canvas size, say to 12x14 to provide 2inch
> > margins. The canvas extension color is background (paper white) and
> > the Anchor specifies a centered image. The image on the monitor now
> > shows my 8x10 image on a 12x14 white canvas. In PS, I recheck the
> > image size and it now shows 12x14 (since the "image" now includes the
> > canvas). 
> > 
> > At this point, I typically add a text layer and place a title on the
> > white canvas below the image. 
> > 
> > All looks fine on the monitor in PS. I flatten the file and save it in
> > TIFF format for printing. The problem occurs when I print the image.
> > Margin sizes sometimes are not predictable and the image
> > size/proportion sometimes are not predictable. At other times, the
> > print looks exactly as I expected it to. I suspect I am failing to
> > check some box somewhere. Later today, I'll experiment a bit more and
> > report my results. 
> > 
> > Thanks for the advice. 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Teddy Dako
> > <teddydako@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > When you say canvas size and image size, do you mean these terms in
> > Photoshop? 
> > > 
> > > Coz what I think you want to do is use the image size in Photoshop
> > and not the canvas size. So if in photoshop you have your image and
> > you go to Image Size and it says, for example 20" x 16". Then you go
> > to Canvas size and set 24" x 20". When you go back to Image Size, you
> > should see 24" x 20" as being your new Image Size.
> > > 
> > > When you then go to define your custom pagesize, you can define it
> > as Portrait and 24" x 20". If you're using the Postscript Driver,
> > anytime you define a custom pagesize, use the portrait setting and
> > define your page. If you want to create your own cut marks or lines,
> > you can select your image (Ctrl + A) and then stroke it with a 1px
> > line on the center. Then your custom page size could be 1/4" bigger.
> > > 
> > > The thing is, I don't know where you're are setting Canvas Size, but
> > that is not being sent to the printer as white space. If you create
> > white space in the pagesize definition and you're using Inked Area or
> > so on the printer, this white space is removed. So you need to add
> > that white space in Photoshop as being part of the image.
> > > 
> > > Give this a try and let us know.
> > > 
> > > cheers
> > > Teddy
> > > 
> > >  "You can't depend on your eyes, if your imagination is out of
focus".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: rcoolbreeze2000 <lgrrrb@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:18:33 PM
> > > Subject: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Custom Paper Size from Roll Paper -
> > Z3100
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have a new Z3100 (44inch) printer and am very pleased with its
> > > performance. However, I need help specifying the paper size when
using
> > > rolls of paper. I specify image size and canvas size in
Photoshop and
> > > then select a Custom Paper Size which is the same size or larger
than
> > > my canvas size. Unfortunately, the image size and proportion as well
> > > as print margin sizes are unpredictable. 
> > > 
> > > For example, I had an image size of 20inch wide x 16inch long and a
> > > canvas size of 24inch wide x 20inch long to provide 2inch margins
> > > around the image. Then, I selected a custom paper size of 24inch
wide
> > > x 20inch long and expected to get a print having a 20inch x 16inch
> > > image with 2inch margins around the image from a 24inch wide roll of
> > > paper. Instead, the print had an image size of nearly 24inch wide x
> > > 20inch long with practically no margins. 
> > > 
> > > As another example, I had an image size of 17inch wide x 22inch long
> > > and a canvas size of 22inch wide x 27inch long to provide 2.5inch
> > > margins around the image. Then, I selected a custom paper size of
> > > 23inch wide x 28inch long and expected to get a print having a
17inch
> > > x 22inch image with margins at least 2.5inch around the image from a
> > > 24inch wide roll of paper. Instead, the print had an image size of
> > > nearly 16inch x 27inch with practically no margins at the top and
> > > bottom but 3.5inch and 4.5inch margins on the sides.
> > > 
> > > What the heck am I failing to do to control the image size, image
> > > proportion and margin sizes? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> >
>



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