On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 08:24:25 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
> Hello Robert,
>
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:07:49 +1000, Robert Krawitz <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:34:31 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> OK. Can you provide a .pto from a very early stage, i.e. prior to doing
>>> any refinement, say just after generating control points for all images
>>> and no optimisation steps performed?
>>
>> Here it is.  I presume that control point generation is deterministic.
>
> Using this .pto (almanor-16-bad-1.pto), if I deselect images  
> 1,3,5,7,9,11,12 I can then optimise everything without all hell breaking  
> loose. I optimised in steps, positions, positions and view, positions and  
> barrel, positions view and barrel, then everything. Are you able to  
> reproduce this behaviour?

It still eventually happens, after enough iterations of removing bad
points, reoptimizing everything but translation, and fine tuning all
points.  In this case, when I got the max error under 2 (average .6,
max 1.7), the problem showed up again.  This is about when I'd
typically expect it to show.  I've attached it at the point it shows up.

> Whilst this might not be an acceptable workaround for you, the mean error  
> is 3.1 pix, max 12.4, it is still considered a good fit.
> It doesn't solve the basic problem, but maybe adds a bit more info to help  
> track down the cause.

It would be helpful if there were a way to trace every operation I
perform.  My description isn't very specific, but it's very hard to be
precise when there are thousands of control points and all that.

I don't consider max 12.4 to be a good fit at all.  At that level,
there's usually some visible discontinuities in the background, where
they're most objectionable (IMO).  Maybe I'm too finicky, but I like
to get it under 1.
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