Abah Yanto, makin langsing aja ya ... alhamdulillah ..... itulah Abah, mestinya GOI itu dalam bikin kontrak ya mbok dipikir dulu dan yg ngasi masukan tidak hanya melihat brp royaltinya, tapi mbok juga dilihat keekonomiannya dalam setiap projek, apa benar kita bisa finance sendiri dsb. KjA bukan tidak setuju dg perubahan kontrak tapi mbok Yaa oo ... jangan melanggar batas2 yg telah disepaki bersama di awal. kalo ada perubahan dari yg telah di teken ini yg akan mengarah ke arbritase .... kata mereka lumayan dapat duit dg ngga usah kerja.
salam ngabuburit KjA 2014-07-21 10:22 GMT+07:00 Yanto R. Sumantri < [email protected]>: > Avi, > > Kalau GOI pasti kalah !!! Apakah itu yang menyebabkan "ancaman" GOI bahwa > apabila NNT itu meneruskan persoalan ini ke Arbitrasi GOI mangancam akan > mencabut Izin Usaha Pertambangan-nya. > > Pertanyaan saya jadinya : " Apakah ada klausa dalam kontrak NNT dengan GOI > mengenai pencabutan izin usaha pertambangan ?" . Dalam kondisi apa GOI > dapat mencabut izin usaha pertambanganya ? > Mungkin teman di MGEI ada yang bisa menjawab. > > si Abah > > > On Monday, July 21, 2014 9:58 AM, rakhmadi avianto < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Paulus sebetulnya ini bukan lahan kita ... jadi aku komen berdasar yg > tertulis > PMA ngga akan maju ke Arbitrase kalau kira2 kalah .... contoh Kahara Bodas > Orang lawyerku sibuk banget jadi ngga bisa nyelo nanyaain hal ini. > > Salam > KjA > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Paulus Tangke Allo <[email protected]> > wrote: > > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! ([email protected]) Add cleanup rule > <https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Ftoken%3DVulGc8u8jtzyyvEoiiXkQl%252B9MjA6GHzTQIEmXow6NbP%252F2fh3kfmVk7ApwzQAVXQgcbPsfxEYQHlCe%252BkaReiqyrNHxmds5tpctJMbdwGDtOjCiJr%252BO0JnngtRRCeI6sKeTEZswk9AMt8%253D%26key%3DszCVe%252F%252FhWZ%252FR7cR%252BL2oezt6BkjF6GU1cXMthfV1%252FuVs%253D&tc_serial=17977091516&tc_rand=1959126002&utm_source=stf&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADD&utm_content=001> > | More info > <http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc_serial=17977091516&tc_rand=1959126002&utm_source=stf&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADD&utm_content=001> > > apakah GoI akan pasti kalah juga kalau membawa isu kedaulatan negara > (national sovereignty) di arbitrase? > > kalau saya kepikirannya, berapa biaya yang akan negara keluarkan untuk > urusan arbitrase ini? uang deposit di arbitrase, biaya lawyer (atau bahkan > international lawyer) dan biaya2 lainnya? akankah GoI terbuka kepada rakyat > Indonesia mengenai jumlah uang negara yang akan dipakai untuk arbitrase? > > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM, rakhmadi avianto < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Loh Vick kalo arbitrase yg dituntut bukan kewajiban Newmont thd GOI tapi > potensial loss yg akan dialami Newmont karena da perubahan kewajiban > kontrak ditengah jalan, yg sebelumnya tidak ada. Dan ini ngga bisa ngutang > krn asset GOI yg diluar yg akan di sita kalau GOI kalah. Bukan kewajiban > Newmont ke GOI yg 5% itu yg dituntut Newmont. > > Dan di sini GOI pasti kalah.... pasti!!!! > > Salam > KjA > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rovicky Dwi Putrohari <[email protected]> > wrote: > > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! 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Dimana selama ini sumbangan income negara dari pertambangan > non migas ini hanya sekitar 5%. Tentunya sumbangan khususnya untuk Newmont > terihat "kecil" dimana pemerintah. Sehingga pemerintah "berani" bila > Newmont tidak meneruskan proyeknya. Namun saya lebih khawatir turunnya > kondisi iklim investasi yg lebih besar, atau indirect impactnya mungkin > lebih besar dibanding direct impactnya. > Tentunya amanat UU jelas harus diikuti sesuai konstitusi. > > Bagaimana menurut kawan2 lain ? > > RDP > > -- > "Lack of Trust Society is More Dangerous to the Country than Lack of > Scientific Approach". > > > 2014-07-19 1:29 GMT+07:00 munajat iwan [email protected] > [economicgeology] <[email protected]>: > > > Indonesia mengancam newmont untuk menarik ijin penambangannya. > Teman-teman silakan diikuti tautan ini. > > http://www.mining.com/indonesia-to-revoke-newmont-license-unless-resumes-output-lifts-lawsuit-66735/?utm_source=digest-en-mining-140717&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=digest > > Apakah ini langkah terbaik pemerintah ?. > -im > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: munajat iwan <[email protected]> > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/economicgeology/conversations/messages/9636;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZGpmNTE3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMDEwMzE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxNjk3NwRtc2dJZAM5NjM2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQwNTcwODE4Ng--?act=reply&messageNum=9636> > • Reply to sender > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Pemerintan%20Indonesia%20Vs%20Newmont> > • Reply to group > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Pemerintan%20Indonesia%20Vs%20Newmont> > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/economicgeology/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNG85ZXBzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMDEwMzE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxNjk3NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MDU3MDgxODY-> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/economicgeology/conversations/topics/9636;_ylc=X3oDMTM1OGUxbmtsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMDEwMzE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxNjk3NwRtc2dJZAM5NjM2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQwNTcwODE4NgR0cGNJZAM5NjM2> > (1) > ------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups > Improved Group Homepage! > > <https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/overview-page-sln15400.html?impressions=true> > The About page of your Group now gives you a heads up display of recent > activity, including the latest photos and files > ------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups > Control your view and sort preferences per Yahoo Group > <http://yahoogroups.tumblr.com/> > You can now control your default Sort & View Preferences for > Conversations, Photos and Files in the membership settings page. > ------------------------------ > Visit Your Group > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/economicgeology/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbXZzOTN0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMDEwMzE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxNjk3NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MDU3MDgxODY-> > [image: Yahoo! 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