On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:50:10 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:02:23 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
>>
>>I would suggest that you decline the request and say that since CA-1
>>"interacts" and is IBM module dependent it is in the best interest of
>>all parties to be in a deliverable state which facilitates IBM
>>maintenance.
>>
>It has been a long time since I did anything with CA-1, but I don't 
remember
>it ever having IFREQs on IBM maintenance, or even going into the same zone
>or belonging to Z038.  Unless I am mistaken, Ed's comment doesn't apply.
>
>All it takes to nullify the advantages of an SMP/E installation is *one*
>request from the vendor to apply service with BYPASS(ID).
>
>That said, my preference has generally been for an SMP/E install, provided
>that it is done correctly.  This is no trivial matter, and as Mark pointed
>out.  Innovation does a fine job without it.  I wouldn't ask them to divert
>resources from product development to provide proper SMP/E packaging.
 
 
My experience must predate Tom's - I certainly do remember UCC-1 
maintenance PRE-ing IBM PTFs (for Open/Close/EOV/etc.).  However, that was 
a long, long, long time ago and Russell's current methods might well no 
longer need that.  I do not, for example, recall having PTF issues with CA-
1 in the slightly more recent past.  And I am not now a CA-1 customer so I 
(a) can't say and (b) don't have a vote.  
 
But if Russell believes he can ship working code with or without SMP/E, I 
believe him.  
 
My present work location has contract requirements that ALL software must 
be installed via SMP/E (if SMP/E is at all an option).  Software that is 
not available via SMP/E is generally not allowed here.  
 
-- 
Tom Schmidt 
Madison, WI 
 

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