Allan, I agree with all the points you made.
Prior to 9/11 and the 2002 recession, contract rates ranged from $85-$125 per hour in the major metropolitan areas and $60-$80 elsewhere. Are they still depressed or have they rebounded? Bob Richards -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Systems Programmer job posting Bob, No offense taken. Having been in the situation and spending almost 2 years looking for a permanent (or semi-permanent) position, I was merely pointing out the the multitudes on this list that almost any paying position is better than unemployment or Wal-mart, etc. Many of us have decried jobs being exported overseas. Here is one in the US that pays a decent wage. I agree this position is paying lower than the norm for our profession, but is is still a decent wage. Many in this country would *LOVE* to be making 63K anually. With some frugality, one can live quite nicely on $63k/year in a market such as KC. One could probably *not* do that in DC, Boston, Chicago, etc. If I were currently unemployed, I would strongly consider this especially if I had permanent residence elsewhere. With the advantage of being able to say almost all living expenses were work related and the associated tax benefits, the effective pay rate would be much higher that $34/hour. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

