On Jun 14, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote:

In my experience, fewer new sysprogs know about IEBUPDTE because they
have no need to run it on their own. Serverpac creates jobs that many newer people just submit and if they get the desired return code have no idea what they ran because they never scroll through the job. So even if Serverpac or some other installation step runs IEBUPDTE, they just submit it and if it works never know what they did. The guiding hand should be there, at least enough
to complete the task.

Those who already know how to do something can skip over material they do
not need. Those who do not know how to do something get annoyed when
they have to go track down other manuals to complete what should be a
simple task. Anything to document what you need while you are doing it is
going to help the newer people.

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Yes and no...I partially agree with you. If a sysprog has almost no SMPe experience then I guess I agree. But almost all of the JES2 modules are IEBUPDTE (except the OCO ones) and anyone looking at the output from an apply will be seeing IEBUPDTE statement(s). If I were to ask an experienced SYSPROG about IEBUPDTE and got a blank look or never heard of it, I would think twice about hiring the person. If you took it down to the servpac they use it a bit but it maybe glossed over someplace along the lines. I am mixed (as I have said in the pass about servpacs) about servpacs on one hand they do the job but at the other its a dumbing down of the sysprog, IMO. I expect to hear a lot of noise because I am criticizing IBM again but what else is new.
Ed

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