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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis Miguel Martinez
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:33 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Dumb idea - pandering to the "other systems" people?
> 
> 
> Fortunately 16 years ago I started as operator. No automation 
> tools, no 3rd party products, no training, no mentors, only 
> your self-learning. Also the great "operation gurues", they 
> were, selfish people that tried to demonstrate their lack of 
> kwnoledge and partnership, denying you  the needed help, 
> denying explanations or at least guidance to the right place 
> where you can find a clue. They were the "wise"
>    
>   Later I could take my first trainings on IBM, HP and SUN 
> and I could increase my habilities and actually I am so glad 
> for helping a lot of my co-workers, people in charge and 
> everybody needed of HELP and improving of their skills.
>    
>   I sadly can mention you , right now, with a bunch of 
> investments on IT software to avoid the human interaction, to 
> automate everything ...... the operators ( the 95% of them) 
> kwnoledge is null year by year and person by person. We maybe 
> forgot that normally the operators are family of anybody in 
> the IT staff .....
>    
>    
>   Regards

What you say is true. The reasons are many. I will say no more as I get
angry and begin to get off-topic to IBM-Main.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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