Ted said
> >The change control for application development is probably better on
PC's
> 
> This is so WRONG!
> 
> I've worked with Change Control/QA for 27+ years.
> I have never seen a package in use by PFCSK's.
> It seems to be hit or miss.

[<CLC>] Pardon? You've never seen CVS? Or any of its zillions of
commercial and open source offspring? I've built entire (mainframe!)
products using these tools on PCs. And it wasn't even a hard decision to
make. They're more flexible and easier to use than anything I've used on
TSO. CMS may have some secret sauce I am not aware of, but if you're
comparing tools on TSO with the PC, it is the mainframe ones that come
up short. Sorry.

> I've worked with change control applications on the mainframe since
1981
> (PANVALET, then).
> 
> I don't think it's platform dependent, but I have seen too many
managers
> let PC 'fixes' fly through on PC's, that they wouldn't let the
equivalent
> see the light of day on mainframes.

[<CLC>] Let's stop bashing PCs here. Only a poor workman blames his
tools. Everyone here has seen ugly changes fly through the net with nary
a swat from the QA or change control process. 

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