Was that OS/360 R14?

Symbols in sysin data streams, of course, is another and much later story.


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I would argue JCL got better when symbols were allowed! :-)
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=es-symlist-parameter

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:46 PM Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:

> Steve, let me wade in here and suggest some big picture. I think SHARE and
> such is great for the details.
>
> What has changed since 2001? An idiosyncratic, IMHO list:
>
> - In 2001 SNA was yielding to TCP/IP. That transition has continued. An
> awful lot of mainframe connectivity is now TCP/IP. Lots and lots of
> Internet connectivity to the mainframe.
> - Security is huge. Encryption is hot. Zero Trust is the buzzword of the
> month.
> - Everything is of course bigger. Z hardware goes up to what? 4TB real?
> Someone will correct me if that is wrong.
> - Tape drives have pretty much gone away. They live on as virtual,
> emulated-on-DASD tape drives.
> - The Cloud. Read any airline magazine for the latest.
> - Remember VM? It was pretty moribund in 2001. It has found new life
> hosting thousands of Linux instances. Yes, Linux running like a champ on Z
> hardware. Mainframe Linux is huge. You can run Linux in a region of MVS in
> a "container."
> - Speaking of which, there is a Z box that will not IPL z/OS! It is called
> Linux One. It's a mainframe with a bit hobbled somewhere such that
> mainframe operating systems will not IPL, only Linux.
> - Lots of new features in core MVS but you would fully recognize the
> environment. If you sit down at a TSO/ISPF session it will seem like
> nothing has changed. JCL has not gotten any better (or any worse,
> thankfully).
> - Remember the issue of "above the (24-bit) line"? It is still there, but
> pretty much in the background. The new thing is data and execution "above
> the (2GB/31-bit) bar." Lots of software products are exploiting data above
> 2GB, and code can even run there, with lots of limitations. AMODE/RMODE 64.
> - IBM JES3 is dead. Long live Phoenix JES3 plus. IBM ditched JES3, and
> Phoenix picked it up.
> - More emphasis on high level languages. Hardware design is being driven
> by the Java folks and the compiler folks. Lots of new hardware
> instructions. Hardware cycle times are not getting any faster, but
> instructions do more per cycle. Caching getting more sophisticated and more
> critical. The concept of "how long does an LR take" has totally
> disappeared. It is a question with no answer other than "it depends."
>
> Anyone else want to weigh in?
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> I would suggest SHARE presentations and perhaps Marna Walle's migration
> guides
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 6:42 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Best catch up resources for MVS / ZOS Technologies
> >
> > Hello Everyone in Mainframe Land,
> >
> > I've been out of the mainframe world since about 2001, but spent the
> prior
> > 20 years immersed in that world working with everything from MVS/370 to
> > MVS/ESA and VM, performance and capacity planning disciplines across a
> > variety of situations in the IT Services and consulting spaces.  I, am,
> now as a
> > "IT Infrastructure Engineer- IBM z/OS Mainframe Engineer" after nearly 20
> > years of other activities (Project Mgmt, entrepreneur, etc) am about to
> > potentially come back into a new mainframe role and I need to catch up as
> > quickly as possible.  Any suggestions on ways to fill in the gaps for
> ZOS, ZVM,
> > hardware, performance, etc?  Bottom line I'm looking for that gap
> education
> > to as quickly as possible get up to speed with changes in platforms
> since 2001.
> > If prefer to call - all my info is below.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Estle
> > 303-604-0925
> > sest...@gmail.com
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