I think you are possibly misunderstanding what an engineer does. The root of the word engineer is in the Latin word "ingeniare" (inventor, designer) and is more associated with things that are 'ingenious'. So our engineers are more closely associated with design, rather than screwdrivers and soldering irons.
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: 15 October 2021 23:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: System Programmer Titles A point of clarification. A lot of this revolves around the day to day meaning of 'engineer'. I have never encountered a shop that sends out systems MTS folks to to open up a hardware box with screwdriver and soldering iron in order to upgrade or downgrade or repair a Z box. That practice is SOP in the wienieware world, not in the Z world. So I repeat: what does a Z systems engineer do that a Z sysprog does not do? On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 2:01 PM CM Poncelet <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > I am in the UK. AFAIK CEng is protected by law world-wide (Washington > Accord) but not all countries or states recognise it. E.g. Texas > admits only the TX PE (Professional Engineer) accreditation and > prohibits using the title 'engineer' if not PE licensed, whereas Idaho > does recognise CEng if held for 8+ years. It can be a bit complicated. > > > https://www.engc.org.uk/glossary-faqs/frequently-asked-questions/statu > s-of-engineers/ > > Cheers, Chris > > > > On 15/10/2021 05:30, Bruce Hewson wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > In which country or countries is your statement correct? > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 21:25:10 +0100, CM Poncelet > > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Anyone can call himself an engineer (e.g. a motor mechanic etc.) It > >> is illegal for anyone to call himself a *Chartered Engineer* (CEng) > >> without being qualified and registered as such with an accredited > >> Engineering institution. HTH. > >> > >> Chris Poncelet CEng MBCS CITP > >> > > > > Regards > > Bruce > > > > -- Skip Robinson 323-715-0595 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
