You wrote " the right nibble is not checked", which is incorrect; it is check 
to to whether to copy it or to ignore it. There is an ambiguity as to how 
alternate signs are handled.


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Seymour,


this citation is about what ED does with left and right nibbles, but it
does not contradict what I cited (or said)


I say it again in my words:


left nibbles must be numeric- right can be anything.


This is true for all bytes subject to EDiting


Martin

Am 24.02.26 um 22:07 schrieb Seymour J Metz:
> "At the time the left digit of a source byte is examined,
> the rightmost four bits are checked for the existence
> of a sign code. When a sign code is encountered in
> the rightmost four bit positions, these bits are not
> treated as a decimal-digit code, and a new source
> byte is fetched from storage when the next pattern
> byte calls for a source-digit examination."
>
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> Seymour,
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>
> this is what it says:
>
> The leftmost four bits of each source byte must specify a decimal-digit
> code (0000-1001); a sign code (1010-1111) is recog-
> nized as a general-operand data exception. The
> rightmost four bits may specify either a sign code or a
> decimal-digit code.
>
> Martin
>
> Am 24.02.26 um 16:38 schrieb Seymour J Metz:
>> No, that's not what Pops says. The left nybble must be a valid digit and the 
>> second nybble gives different results depending on whether it is a digit or 
>> a sign.
>>
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>> Second attempt- maybe this time readable
>>
>> ED checks all left nibbles for num, the right nibble is not checked, but 
>> interpreted (digit select, field separator , etc).... see POP.
>>
>> so 12 3A 56 7B  as 4 char packed field is valid (ED does not care for single 
>> field or multiple fields).
>>
>> 12 A3 45 67 is not valid because the second left nibble is not numeric
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Am 23.02.26 um 20:48 schrieb martin:
>>> ED checks all left nibbles for num, the right nibble is not checked, but 
>>> interpreted (digit select, field separator , etc).... see POP.MartinFrom a 
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