I used to love the 3180 with a custom logmode;43x80 primary, 27x132 secondary. But nothing beats a 3290 with VSPLIT.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Tom Brennan <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 7:38 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction External Message: Use Caution I had a 3278-4 on my desk for more than 10 years, and never changed until PC's came along. The best thing was the super sharp text. The worst was alt-number for a PF key. There were people around me with color screens, and even one guy with an APL keyboard, but the color screens didn't seem to have the sharp resolution of a 3278. On 7/29/2026 3:09 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > I had two 3278-4s for a while, then swapped one for a 3279-5 when I worked on > a product that did color. Those were GREAT machines, with great keyboards. > > Being in the D.C. area, I used to say that if they said the missiles were > headed our way, I'd just get under my desk--I might get crushed, but I was > pretty sure the 327x would survive just about anything! > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Pommier, Rex > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 5:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction > > Hey, Radoslaw, I resemble your remarks! I had a 3290 on my desk decades ago. > Man that thing was noisy! > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Radoslaw Skorupka > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 3:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction > > They drop veeeery old equipment, which actually cannot be attached to any CPC > which could run current OS. > Even 3380 as an emulation is no longer available in contemporary DASD systems. > OSAD - you can define it, but it is useless. So you will not loose anything > by dropping it. > 3290 - the only person who remember this dev is Shmuel (that's a joke). > 3330 - really? It's older than me! > 9032 - ESCON director. Current OS support z15 and next generations. > ESCON was available until z196. > etc. > > What about shops using old equipment? They also use old OS. > I strongly doubt some shop like UBS or BofA is using new shining z17's > connected to Bus & Tag or ESCON attached peripherals. > > My $0.02 > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > W dniu 29.07.2026 o 21:50, Tom Brennan pisze: >> I was thinking it's the UNIT= parameter in an IOCP, but I could be >> wrong. Is that considered a device class? I never learned HCD. >> >> For old-to-new DS8000 hardware migrations, I'll often get a CSV config >> file from the old DS8000, run it through a script, and come up with >> CLI commands that will make the new box look like the old one. I saw >> some 3380's on a client's box while doing this maybe 5 years ago. >> Probably gone by now. >> >> On 7/29/2026 9:20 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: >>> If only there was some sort of definitive way to tell, like IBM >>> specifying the device types and models for which they're dropping >>> support... /s >>> >>> Srsly, device type and model is the canonical way IBM describes >>> things; I'm gobsmacked that this SoD doesn't list them. Actually it's >>> even worse: it DOES say "Device Types" but then lists device >>> *classes* (like "CTC"). >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
