I had a 3278-4 on my desk for more than 10 years, and never changed
until PC's came along. The best thing was the super sharp text. The
worst was alt-number for a PF key. There were people around me with
color screens, and even one guy with an APL keyboard, but the color
screens didn't seem to have the sharp resolution of a 3278.
On 7/29/2026 3:09 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
I had two 3278-4s for a while, then swapped one for a 3279-5 when I worked on a
product that did color. Those were GREAT machines, with great keyboards.
Being in the D.C. area, I used to say that if they said the missiles were
headed our way, I'd just get under my desk--I might get crushed, but I was
pretty sure the 327x would survive just about anything!
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Pommier, Rex
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Hey, Radoslaw, I resemble your remarks! I had a 3290 on my desk decades ago.
Man that thing was noisy!
Rex
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction
They drop veeeery old equipment, which actually cannot be attached to any CPC
which could run current OS.
Even 3380 as an emulation is no longer available in contemporary DASD systems.
OSAD - you can define it, but it is useless. So you will not loose anything by
dropping it.
3290 - the only person who remember this dev is Shmuel (that's a joke).
3330 - really? It's older than me!
9032 - ESCON director. Current OS support z15 and next generations.
ESCON was available until z196.
etc.
What about shops using old equipment? They also use old OS.
I strongly doubt some shop like UBS or BofA is using new shining z17's connected to
Bus & Tag or ESCON attached peripherals.
My $0.02
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 29.07.2026 o 21:50, Tom Brennan pisze:
I was thinking it's the UNIT= parameter in an IOCP, but I could be
wrong. Is that considered a device class? I never learned HCD.
For old-to-new DS8000 hardware migrations, I'll often get a CSV config
file from the old DS8000, run it through a script, and come up with
CLI commands that will make the new box look like the old one. I saw
some 3380's on a client's box while doing this maybe 5 years ago.
Probably gone by now.
On 7/29/2026 9:20 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
If only there was some sort of definitive way to tell, like IBM
specifying the device types and models for which they're dropping
support... /s
Srsly, device type and model is the canonical way IBM describes
things; I'm gobsmacked that this SoD doesn't list them. Actually it's
even worse: it DOES say "Device Types" but then lists device
*classes* (like "CTC").
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