What was the reason for two styles of 3290? One is more rectangular
than the other.

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Will

On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 7:38 PM Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I had a 3278-4 on my desk for more than 10 years, and never changed
> until PC's came along.  The best thing was the super sharp text.  The
> worst was alt-number for a PF key.  There were people around me with
> color screens, and even one guy with an APL keyboard, but the color
> screens didn't seem to have the sharp resolution of a 3278.
>
> On 7/29/2026 3:09 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
> > I had two 3278-4s for a while, then swapped one for a 3279-5 when I worked 
> > on a product that did color. Those were GREAT machines, with great 
> > keyboards.
> >
> > Being in the D.C. area, I used to say that if they said the missiles were 
> > headed our way, I'd just get under my desk--I might get crushed, but I was 
> > pretty sure the 327x would survive just about anything!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> > Pommier, Rex
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 5:57 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction
> >
> > Hey, Radoslaw, I resemble your remarks!  I had a 3290 on my desk decades 
> > ago.  Man that thing was noisy!
> >
> > Rex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> > Radoslaw Skorupka
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 3:45 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Statement of Direction
> >
> > They drop veeeery old equipment, which actually cannot be attached to any 
> > CPC which could run current OS.
> > Even 3380 as an emulation is no longer available in contemporary DASD 
> > systems.
> > OSAD - you can define it, but it is useless. So you will not loose anything 
> > by dropping it.
> > 3290 - the only person who remember this dev is Shmuel (that's a joke).
> > 3330 - really? It's older than me!
> > 9032 - ESCON director. Current OS support z15 and next generations.
> > ESCON was available until z196.
> > etc.
> >
> > What about shops using old equipment? They also use old OS.
> > I strongly doubt some shop like UBS or BofA is using new shining z17's 
> > connected to Bus & Tag or ESCON attached peripherals.
> >
> > My $0.02
> >
> > --
> > Radoslaw Skorupka
> > Lodz, Poland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > W dniu 29.07.2026 o 21:50, Tom Brennan pisze:
> >> I was thinking it's the UNIT= parameter in an IOCP, but I could be
> >> wrong.  Is that considered a device class?  I never learned HCD.
> >>
> >> For old-to-new DS8000 hardware migrations, I'll often get a CSV config
> >> file from the old DS8000, run it through a script, and come up with
> >> CLI commands that will make the new box look like the old one.  I saw
> >> some 3380's on a client's box while doing this maybe 5 years ago.
> >> Probably gone by now.
> >>
> >> On 7/29/2026 9:20 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
> >>> If only there was some sort of definitive way to tell, like IBM
> >>> specifying the device types and models for which they're dropping
> >>> support... /s
> >>>
> >>> Srsly, device type and model is the canonical way IBM describes
> >>> things; I'm gobsmacked that this SoD doesn't list them. Actually it's
> >>> even worse: it DOES say "Device Types" but then lists device
> >>> *classes* (like "CTC").
> >>>
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