Since us technicians don't see the benefits, they must be non-technical, and will probably be marketing...
Kees. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 14:26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Resistance to Java. +1 for Martins blog post, which is excellent. Having said that, the whole zIIP concept is baroque from root to branch. Why couldn't IBM have come up with something much simpler? On 23/01/2014 8:29 PM, Scott Chapman wrote: > I think that's a better overview of the issue Martin, because you bring out > the important fact that z/OS doesn't forget about how to prioritize work just > because it's on a specialty engine. It's probably would also be a similarly > good rule of thumb that you shouldn't let your GPs get over 50% busy with the > most important system-related work. And having more dispatchable CPUs than > less has been better in my experience. > > One small point though relative to your blog post: each DDF transaction > actually now creates two enclaves: an indepedent enclave and a work-dependent > enclave. It seems that the work-dependent enclave runs only on the GCP and > does 40% of the work, while the independent enclave runs 100% on the zIIP and > does 60% of the work. But it does appear from the doc and data that work > dependent enclave CPU time is captured in the indepedent enclave CPU time > buckets, which makes sense. > > Scott > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:46:18 +0000, Martin Packer <martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com> > wrote: > >> I'm also talking about this. In the final throes of having a >> presentation I aim to put on Slideshare (and give at any suitable venue). >> >> The message is important: DB2 V10 changes the way we view zIIP capacity. >> The other message is important: zIIP Capacity Planning IS very feasible. >> >> And at the risk of annoying people with blatant self promotion :-) see: >> >> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry >> /ziip_address_space_instrumentation?lang=en >> >> Cheers, Martin >> >> Martin Packer, >> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center >> of Excellence, IBM >> >> +44-7802-245-584 >> >> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com >> >> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker >> Blog: >> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacke >> r >> >> >> >> From: Norbert Friemel <nf.ibmm...@web.de> >> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu >> Date: 23/01/2014 09:01 >> Subject: Re: Resistance to Java. >> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:59:23 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >>> On 22/01/2014 11:53 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: >>>> IBM is currently warning customers that over-using ZIIPs may lead >>>> to serious performance problems because of the way z/OS manages >>>> them >> vs. >>>> the way it manages general purpose CPs. >>> Can you supply a link wrt that information? >>> >> Google found: >> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/22586cb0-8817-4d2c >> -ae74-0ddcc2a409bc/entry/december_17_2012_6_07_am3?lang=en >> >> >> http://ibmdatamag.com/2013/04/performance-and-capacity-considerations >> -for-ziip-engines/ >> >> >> Norbert Friemel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> Unless stated otherwise above: >> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with >> number 741598. >> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire >> PO6 3AU >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ******************************************************** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. 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