[email protected] (Ed Jaffe) writes: > I've often wondered what the state of the mainframe would be today if > IBM had actually done a halfway decent job developing ISPF > Client/Server, mSys for Setup, and other similar GUI-based initiatives > from the 1990s.
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#39 Resistance to Java a primary communication group effort fighting off distributed computing and client/server was SAA (I've periodically mentioned senior disk engineer getting talk at annual worldwide internal communication group conferencing and opening with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division ... among other things the disk division was seeing drop in disk sales with data fleeing the datacenter for more distributed computing friendly platforms ... and communication group veto'ing all the solutions the disk division would come up ... the communication group had strategic "ownership" for everything that crossed data center wall). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Systems_Application_Architecture "Father of SAA" no relation ... and the executive put in charge of doing SAA in the early 90s ... I had worked with many years earlier on 138/148 microcode assist and would periodically drop by his office on top floor of somers and ridicule SAA. part of the issue was we had come up with 3-tier architecture ... initially written into response for large, distributed, super-secure government program ... and then out making pitches to customer executives ... and getting lots of arrows in the back (and other FUD) from the communication group. past posts mentioning 3-tier (and SAA) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier part of the issue was 3tier was all tcp/ip (and not SNA). at the same time SAA was kicked off, the communication group was also out distributing a lot of misinformation inside the corporation about how SNA could be used for the the NSFNET backbone (precursor to modern internet). old NSFNET backbone email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet and past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet and other misinformation that if the internal network wasn't converted to SNA, the internal network would stop working. internal network old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#vnet and past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
